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Re: ScyllaDB Open Source 3.0

#3

Post by marknadal »

According to their https://www.scylladb.com/open-source/ page:

Server License:

- Free Software Foundation’s GNU AGPL v3.0

- Commercial licenses are also available. Contact us for more information.

Driver Licenses:

- Apache Cassandra drivers: Apache License v2.0

Third-party drivers:

- Licenses will vary. See the individual driver documentation for details.

Documentation License:

- Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 International

This angers me very much, they are lying about being OSS which was started by OSI (https://opensource.org/) as a response to GPL/AGPL/FSF/RMS's non-open policies, when in reality only their client drivers are OSS but their servers are commercial or AGPL.

I say this, as someone who has spent years working on and consciously giving away popular DB software as zlib/MIT/apache2 with my project - which is now run in production by Internet Archive, top 300 global site, and others (https://github.com/amark/gun) - just to see more and more other DBs steal "OSS" label to falsify marketing, and more and more DBs become "open core" crippleware. We need more people to keep campaigning against these outright license lies and the faux-humble "I can't survive as OSS unless you pay for commercial license" junk, if you can't survive doing OSS then just don't do OSS!! Lying you are OSS but actually AGPL instead is just a shady ploy to get more dev/biz clicks.

Re: ScyllaDB Open Source 3.0

#4

Post by dhuramas »

marknadal wrote: post #3

According to their https://www.scylladb.com/open-source/ page: Server License: - Free Software Foundation’s GNU AGPL v3.0 - Commercial licenses are also available. Contact us for more information. Driver Licenses: - Apache Cassandra drivers: Apache License v2.0 Third-party drivers: - Licenses will vary. See the individual driver documentation for details. Documentation License: - Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAli…

Really? Would have helped to check out: https://opensource.org/licenses/alphabetical

All the licenses(Except the Third-Party Driver licenses) look opensource to me.

Re: ScyllaDB Open Source 3.0

#5

Post by rat9988 »

marknadal wrote: post #3

According to their https://www.scylladb.com/open-source/ page: Server License: - Free Software Foundation’s GNU AGPL v3.0 - Commercial licenses are also available. Contact us for more information. Driver Licenses: - Apache Cassandra drivers: Apache License v2.0 Third-party drivers: - Licenses will vary. See the individual driver documentation for details. Documentation License: - Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAli…

As for mangodb, I still qualify this as open source. I don't care about what OSI says. For me as long as I can read the source, and modify it for my business, it's fine. It doesn't need to be free as in free beer.

Re: ScyllaDB Open Source 3.0

#6

Post by thefounder »

rat9988 wrote: post #5
marknadal wrote: post #3

According to their https://www.scylladb.com/open-source/ page: Server License: - Free Software Foundation’s GNU AGPL v3.0 - Commercial licenses are also available. Contact us for more information. Driver Licenses: - Apache Cassandra drivers: Apache License v2.0 Third-party drivers: - Licenses will vary. See the individual driver documentation for details. Documentation License: - Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAli…

As for mangodb, I still qualify this as open source. I don't care about what OSI says. For me as long as I can read the source, and modify it for my business, it's fine. It doesn't need to be free as in free beer.

Well that's exactly the issue...you can't modify it or use it for your business if you compete with Mongo corp

Re: ScyllaDB Open Source 3.0

#7

Post by marknadal »

dhuramas wrote: post #4
marknadal wrote: post #3

According to their https://www.scylladb.com/open-source/ page: Server License: - Free Software Foundation’s GNU AGPL v3.0 - Commercial licenses are also available. Contact us for more information. Driver Licenses: - Apache Cassandra drivers: Apache License v2.0 Third-party drivers: - Licenses will vary. See the individual driver documentation for details. Documentation License: - Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAli…

Really? Would have helped to check out: https://opensource.org/licenses/alphabetical All the licenses(Except the Third-Party Driver licenses) look opensource to me.

What the heck? You are right, AGPL is listed, yet clearly violates https://opensource.org/osd-annotated definition. Could somebody explain this to me?

Re: ScyllaDB Open Source 3.0

#8

Post by dewey »

thefounder wrote: post #6
rat9988 wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As for mangodb, I still qualify this as open source. I don't care about what OSI says. For me as long as I can read the source, and modify it for my business, it's fine. It doesn't need to be free as in free beer.

Well that's exactly the issue...you can't modify it or use it for your business if you compete with Mongo corp

The “if you compete with mongo corp” is probably exactly what the parent comment means. It doesn’t effect a lot of people who would use that.

Re: ScyllaDB Open Source 3.0

#10

Post by rvcdbn »

marknadal wrote: post #7
dhuramas wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Really? Would have helped to check out: https://opensource.org/licenses/alphabetical All the licenses(Except the Third-Party Driver licenses) look opensource to me.

What the heck? You are right, AGPL is listed, yet clearly violates https://opensource.org/osd-annotated definition. Could somebody explain this to me?

What part of the AGPL violates the open source definition?
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