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Firefox 4.0 Beta 7 - Super fluid, beats everyone on sunspider

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Re: Firefox 4.0 Beta 7 - Super fluid, beats everyone on sunspider

#11

Congrats Mozilla on the release! Odd title though for this post, for where is the "everyone"? The link shows comparisons to previous versions of Firefox, not other browsers. One thing I hope they fix before final release though is the constant CPU usage when you have many tabs open. I thought the Panorama feature was supposed to address this. It's currently idling at around 25% CPU for me, and no, unfortunately I can…

> Odd title though for this post, for where is the "everyone"? The link shows comparisons to previous versions of Firefox, not other browsers. http://arewefastyet.com/ Sunspider’s not a very good benchmark; more interesting to me is that they’re nearly even with V8 in V8’s own benchmark. Though I wonder why they can’t backport TM, or at least a subset, to 3.6; is Firefox so monolithic that improvements to the scripth…

I ran the tests on my Ubuntu 10.10 laptop running Firefox-4.0 Beta8pre and Chrome 9.0.570.0 (64571) and Firefox actually beat Chrome 2943 to 3645 (or a 23% improvement) averaged over two runs.

Gotta love browser competition!

Re: Firefox 4.0 Beta 7 - Super fluid, beats everyone on sunspider

#13

Since they are ripping off the chrome UI part and parcel, I wonder why they still haven't switched to a unified search and location bar.

I still prefer the Firefox's Awesome bar over Chrome's unified bar. I like having the drop down list of my most visited sites.

Re: Firefox 4.0 Beta 7 - Super fluid, beats everyone on sunspider

#14

Can anyone elaborate on the XPCOM improvements? I thought the plan was to get rid of XPCOM all together in firefox 4. Very nice set of improvements though. Not sure about firefox 4, but firefox 3 was a memory hog.

You can read this:

https://developer.mozilla.org/en/XPCOM/XPCOM_changes_in_Geck...

Overall, the changes are great and a long-time coming. As someone who embeds Gecko as a foundational technology for our application, the changes have been pretty bumpy as of late. Next year, I'm hoping the codebase will stabilize. I'm especially looking forward to the new single-HWND rendering code: http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/roc/archives/2010/10/bye_bye_...

Re: Firefox 4.0 Beta 7 - Super fluid, beats everyone on sunspider

#16

Congrats Mozilla on the release! Odd title though for this post, for where is the "everyone"? The link shows comparisons to previous versions of Firefox, not other browsers. One thing I hope they fix before final release though is the constant CPU usage when you have many tabs open. I thought the Panorama feature was supposed to address this. It's currently idling at around 25% CPU for me, and no, unfortunately I can…

> Odd title though for this post, for where is the "everyone"? The link shows comparisons to previous versions of Firefox, not other browsers. http://arewefastyet.com/ Sunspider’s not a very good benchmark; more interesting to me is that they’re nearly even with V8 in V8’s own benchmark. Though I wonder why they can’t backport TM, or at least a subset, to 3.6; is Firefox so monolithic that improvements to the scripth…

Huh... I haven't heard anyone in the Mozilla world even talk about backporting to 3.6 (even to say it's a bad idea). Everyone is very focused on 4.

Re: Firefox 4.0 Beta 7 - Super fluid, beats everyone on sunspider

#17
I would use 4.0 Beta full-time if Firebug and Yahoo's Delicious extensions were updated. The memory utilization is great just like Firefox 3.6. Compare sometime the memory utilized while running many tabs in Chrome vs. Firefox over a prolonged period of time.

Update: I found Firebug has an alpha release supporting Firefox 4. http://getfirebug.com/releases/firebug/1.7X/

Re: Firefox 4.0 Beta 7 - Super fluid, beats everyone on sunspider

#18

I would use 4.0 Beta full-time if Firebug and Yahoo's Delicious extensions were updated. The memory utilization is great just like Firefox 3.6. Compare sometime the memory utilized while running many tabs in Chrome vs. Firefox over a prolonged period of time. Update: I found Firebug has an alpha release supporting Firefox 4. http://getfirebug.com/releases/firebug/1.7X/

I've found the same, on linux x64 at least. Firefox is a little more stable when you run an ungodly amount of tabs and leave it open for days on end (yes I'm in therapy but so far it's not working). That, plus its superior Vim plugin seals the deal. Looking forward to 4.0, though I'm actually glad they decided to push back the release a few months. Stability > everything, imho.

Re: Firefox 4.0 Beta 7 - Super fluid, beats everyone on sunspider

#20

Since they are ripping off the chrome UI part and parcel, I wonder why they still haven't switched to a unified search and location bar.

There is a great Firefox plug-in called CyberSearch. I can't imagine browsing without it. For me, it works way better than the integrated location bar in Google Chrome.
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