If this is true, my DNA is so healthy.
Consumption of a dark roast coffee blend reduces DNA damage in humans
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Re: Consumption of a dark roast coffee blend reduces DNA damage in humans
#122"Funding This study has been supported by Tchibo GmbH, Hamburg, Germany." Tchibo is a German chain of coffee retailers and cafés known for its range of non-coffee products that change weekly. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tchibo Number of locations 700 shops (Germany) 300 (rest of world) They might want to make some in-store claims about Dark Roast...
Could someone please explain to me how funding could lead to biased results? Is it disbursed conditionally? Is it the desire for future grants?
If it's just bribery, are all of these scientists just selling out constantly?
Re: Consumption of a dark roast coffee blend reduces DNA damage in humans
#123Stopped drinking coffee months ago and I have never felt better. Anxiety is down. Sleeplessness is down. General mood is up. Best of all, I no longer get headaches due to Caffeine withdrawal.
Was quitting coffee the only change you've made in your lifestyle? Or did you e.g. started working out, be more strict about your daily regime, be more careful with what you eat?
Re: Consumption of a dark roast coffee blend reduces DNA damage in humans
#124All I can say... "Is Most Published Research Wrong?"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42QuXLucH3Q
TL;DR: Likely yes. Spinning statistics is not that hard, even with the best of intentions.
Re: Consumption of a dark roast coffee blend reduces DNA damage in humans
#125Earlier quoted context omitted.
To your parenthetical comment: May be unrelated, but totally anecdotal, smokers tend to drink a very light roast that is easily drinkable like a folgers or maxwell house, maybe a coffee shop light roast, like a Dunkin. I don't think smokers are downing cups of Starbucks dark blend and if they are god help their stomachs.
This is probably true in the US, but in Europe I bet you would find that smokers drink espresso (which is usually made with dark roast coffee). Even for "regular strength" black coffee, people tend to drink "americano", which is espresso diluted with water. In the UK, in particular, I'm astounded at the volume of dark roast coffee people drink in the morning.
Any statement like "in Europe" is a fundamental disservice to how diverse Europe is in terms of taste. For example, I don't think I've ever met anyone in my life that likes to drink americano. I know a lot of people that smoke and drink coffee though.
Re: Consumption of a dark roast coffee blend reduces DNA damage in humans
#126While I'm always happy to hear good news about coffee (although as an espresso aficionado, I'd be hard pressed to consume half a litre a day), given the obvious difference between coffee and water, I don't see how this can be a 'single-blind' study.
Re: Consumption of a dark roast coffee blend reduces DNA damage in humans
#127Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm generally sceptical of all studies about coffee for this very reason. There's a lot of bullshit studies around food and supplements funded with people with strongly vested interests in selling more product. It's a real problem. For any given supplement, you can often find multiple studies supporting its use and multiple studies saying it's harmful. When it comes to coffee specifically, if you listen to the studie…
> you can often find multiple studies supporting its use and multiple studies saying it's harmful. While true and I get your point, there isn't anything inherently wrong with that. We should expect and welcome research with the awareness of vested interests. Afterall it's not surprising for a substance to be beneficial in certain ways yet harmful in other ways. Research from opposing groups will help identify all int…
>We should expect and welcome research with the awareness of vested interests.
No, we should ban vested interests from funding research studies and reduce the SnR.
Re: Consumption of a dark roast coffee blend reduces DNA damage in humans
#128Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm generally sceptical of all studies about coffee for this very reason. There's a lot of bullshit studies around food and supplements funded with people with strongly vested interests in selling more product. It's a real problem. For any given supplement, you can often find multiple studies supporting its use and multiple studies saying it's harmful. When it comes to coffee specifically, if you listen to the studie…
To some extent isn't that expected? Let's face it - who would spend the money to fund a study on a substance that's been around for hundreds (thousands?) of years? Probably if you're going to spend the money to investigate it, you expect some kind of return. So sadly, all these studies end up being funded by people with an interest in a positive outcome. The bigger question to me is, does that immediately invalidate…
>The bigger question to me is, does that immediately invalidate their results?
Considering that most such research results are already non-reproducible and p-hacking, the added vested interests land this squarely in the crap category.
People like us nerds thinking it through strict logic ("still this does not necessarily invalidate") might reduce some false negatives, but it mostly just wastes our time and has us taken for suckers from industry/marketing con men. With this kind of "research" taking a shortcut in its evaluation is more productive.
Re: Consumption of a dark roast coffee blend reduces DNA damage in humans
#129Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm generally sceptical of all studies about coffee for this very reason. There's a lot of bullshit studies around food and supplements funded with people with strongly vested interests in selling more product. It's a real problem. For any given supplement, you can often find multiple studies supporting its use and multiple studies saying it's harmful. When it comes to coffee specifically, if you listen to the studie…
> However, it's a stimulant, it increases cortisol (stress hormone). Stimulants generally makes the body prioritize immediate energy spending over regeneration/healing. There's been a study claiming that caffeine decreases neurogenesis, which should negatively impact both long-term memory and mood. All true. Now, by the same token, I am wondering about the effects of decaf. You know, all the alleged "good stuff", non…
Does it have "all the alleged good stuff"? Most of the alleged good effects are in caffeine itself...
If you just want antioxidants (which are themselves oversold too) just eat some berries or something...
Re: Consumption of a dark roast coffee blend reduces DNA damage in humans
#130Hey guys Pub Med Labs developer here. Check out this very same fascinating article in the new Labs site and please give us your feedback! Much appreciated. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/labs/pubmed/30448878-consumptio...
Looks good. Could you move the doi towards the top? I would rather not scroll for it.