Thieves of Experience: How Google and Facebook Corrupted Capitalism
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Thieves of Experience: How Google and Facebook Corrupted Capitalism
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#2Worth reading even for those who already read the NYT review, as it nicely explains the timeline of how we got into this situation.
Fully agree that Google and Facebook are mainly to blame. As an example, Google's success in surveillance and pacifying critics through open source trinkets almost definitely convinced Microsoft to try its hand at the same game. And now the two biggest operating system developers are spying on their so-called customers.
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#4"Anyone who tries to remove a pre-installed Google app from an Android phone, for instance, will likely be confronted by a vague but menacing warning: “If you disable this app, other apps may no longer function as intended.” This is a coy, high-tech form of blackmail: “Give us your data, or the phone dies.”
They're bluffing. Turning off Google Drive, Google Duo, Google Gmail, Google Play Movies and TV, Google Play Movies, Google Play Music, Google Play Store, Google Keep, Google Maps, Google Photos, and Google YouTube doesn't do anything other than turn off those user-facing apps. Google Play Services is the only one that affects other apps. Then install F-Droid and install open source replacements.
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#5It's not a corruption of capitalism, it's just capitalism. They found a market, they sell on that market. They dominate that market.
That's capitalism, no need to make up a new term.
Re: Thieves of Experience: How Google and Facebook Corrupted Capitalism
#6Worth reading even for those who already read the NYT review, as it nicely explains the timeline of how we got into this situation. Fully agree that Google and Facebook are mainly to blame. As an example, Google's success in surveillance and pacifying critics through open source trinkets almost definitely convinced Microsoft to try its hand at the same game. And now the two biggest operating system developers are spy…
Do you see Google and Facebook as equals in terms of badness?
Honestly, I’ve always perceived Google as less insidious than Facebook. To me FB is more in your face, channeling your behavior. Google seems more passive and delivers more utility.
What am I missing?
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Here, I think you dropped your copy of "Das Kapital"
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#9I think it's a big mistake to blame Google and Facebook. They are just the latest symptoms of a long term trend. I think the real corruption started sometime in 70s or 80s when it became acceptable to declare that a company has no other obligations than to their shareholders.
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#10If you're not the client, you're the product.
Then think about how much do you pay for google and facebook services.