Brexit Deal Fails in Parliament
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Brexit Deal Fails in Parliament
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Re: Brexit Deal Fails in Parliament
#2The whole thing seems like a slow motion train wreck, except with the potentially and arguably happy outcome of them remaining in the EU.
Re: Brexit Deal Fails in Parliament
#3The whole thing seems like a slow motion train wreck, except with the potentially and arguably happy outcome of them remaining in the EU.
Just to be clear, article 50 hasn't been revoked, the UK will still leave the EU with no deal on March 30th.
This vote is very damaging to the government's position, but as it stands there's been no move, assurance, or guarantees, to stop article 50.
If article 50 is activated it starts a two year countdown as the UK slowly moves out of the EU.
Even if the government loses the no confidence vote, there's still no implied action on article 50.
Re: Brexit Deal Fails in Parliament
#4So, will they now re-evaluate the whole Brexit? It's clear it was a failed idea to begin with.
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#5Don't fully understand UK government structure but is it possible for the labor party to take over leadership and revoke article 50 before the deadline?
Re: Brexit Deal Fails in Parliament
#6The whole thing seems like a slow motion train wreck, except with the potentially and arguably happy outcome of them remaining in the EU.
Just to be clear, article 50 hasn't been revoked, the UK will still leave the EU with no deal on March 30th. This vote is very damaging to the government's position, but as it stands there's been no move, assurance, or guarantees, to stop article 50. If article 50 is activated it starts a two year countdown as the UK slowly moves out of the EU. Even if the government loses the no confidence vote, there's still no imp…
If they are smart, they'll axe Brexit completely now and admit how they misled everyone about its benefits.
Re: Brexit Deal Fails in Parliament
#7The whole thing seems like a slow motion train wreck, except with the potentially and arguably happy outcome of them remaining in the EU.
Just to be clear, article 50 hasn't been revoked, the UK will still leave the EU with no deal on March 30th. This vote is very damaging to the government's position, but as it stands there's been no move, assurance, or guarantees, to stop article 50. If article 50 is activated it starts a two year countdown as the UK slowly moves out of the EU. Even if the government loses the no confidence vote, there's still no imp…
This might, however, be the next step in the political game being played by factions interested in having a new referendum.
Re: Brexit Deal Fails in Parliament
#8The whole thing seems like a slow motion train wreck, except with the potentially and arguably happy outcome of them remaining in the EU.
Just to be clear, article 50 hasn't been revoked, the UK will still leave the EU with no deal on March 30th. This vote is very damaging to the government's position, but as it stands there's been no move, assurance, or guarantees, to stop article 50. If article 50 is activated it starts a two year countdown as the UK slowly moves out of the EU. Even if the government loses the no confidence vote, there's still no imp…
What I don't understand (and I am very ignorant!) is why the initial vote can't just be looked at as a stage in the decision process. Time has gone on, and the public has become more educated as to what the true effects of Brexit will be. Even leaving aside the question of how dishonest the pro-Brexit arguments were. It just seems reasonable to have another vote.
Re: Brexit Deal Fails in Parliament
#9The whole thing seems like a slow motion train wreck, except with the potentially and arguably happy outcome of them remaining in the EU.
Just to be clear, article 50 hasn't been revoked, the UK will still leave the EU with no deal on March 30th. This vote is very damaging to the government's position, but as it stands there's been no move, assurance, or guarantees, to stop article 50. If article 50 is activated it starts a two year countdown as the UK slowly moves out of the EU. Even if the government loses the no confidence vote, there's still no imp…
Yes, but there was no chance of article 50 being revoked while May's deal was still on the table. Now it's a choice between revoking it and a hard Brexit. Which is the only way we'd ever get to a state where it might be revoked.
EU courts have, IIRC, ruled that Britain can unilaterally revoke article 50, so now it's all up to elected MPs to figure out a way forward. So the fate of the UK rests on the good judgment and sensibility of Jeremy Corbyn.
Re: Brexit Deal Fails in Parliament
#10Don't fully understand UK government structure but is it possible for the labor party to take over leadership and revoke article 50 before the deadline?
Isn't the labor party also against revoking article 50? Corbyn at least? I thought it was only the liberal party that has been consistent in arguing for revoking it.