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Re: Facebook to Invest $300m in Supporting Local News

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> Last year, we worked to better understand what kind of news people want to see on Facebook. This opening line is just all wrong. News isn't about 'what you want to see', writing news to garner clicks is basically another way of saying 'our news reporting is fundamentally biased'. Real journalism isn't entertainment. But, I get it, real journalism doesn't sell, people don't have time to understand world problems, do…

So who decides what's news worthy?

Isn't this the fundamental question? Who do you want to decide what is news worthy for you?

Re: Facebook to Invest $300m in Supporting Local News

#62

> Last year, we worked to better understand what kind of news people want to see on Facebook. This opening line is just all wrong. News isn't about 'what you want to see', writing news to garner clicks is basically another way of saying 'our news reporting is fundamentally biased'. Real journalism isn't entertainment. But, I get it, real journalism doesn't sell, people don't have time to understand world problems, do…

I get what you're saying but this kind of capture already happened with Sinclair, and it's mind-boggling how awful it can be at times. I think any kind of competition would move the needle closer to fairness rather than away from it.

Re: Facebook to Invest $300m in Supporting Local News

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The decline in local news likely plays a big part in the decline in American civic life and social capital. That said, $300M isn't nearly enough to even mitigate the damage Facebook does to American civic life simply by virtue of being a data-mining, misinformation spreading behemoth. Their business model is at cross purposes with the ideal of having an informed citizenry. The entire point of marketing and advertisin…

Name me a war the US entered that isn't World War II that wasn't coincident with a misinformation campaign published on dead tree legacy media. The truth is that mass media IS edutainment at best and completely misleading fiction most of the time. You get to pick two: fast, cheap, and good/true. If it is fast and cheap it is fake. If it is cheap and true it will take time to attain. If it is true and fast, it won't b…

Why exclude WWII? US entered WWII via a false explanation of what caused the Pearl Harbor attack, and support for the war was kept aflout by propaganda.

Re: Facebook to Invest $300m in Supporting Local News

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That’s interesting- would you be willing to share your publication? I’d love to check it out.

It's very closely tied to my real-world identity so I'm not comfortable linking it here at this time. It's only interesting to the people living in/around my small town, to anyone else it would just look like a generic small town news website full of unimportant small-town topics.

Are you capturing these folks from FB through email sign-ups? Have seen a couple local news orgs successfully get people to visit their site directly by investing in email.

Re: Facebook to Invest $300m in Supporting Local News

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Ah yes the bastion of journalistic quality that is local news...wait...what? FB gets a lot of flak for fake news and then decides to invest in local news? Why not in institutions that set the standard for journalism and bring accountability such as Pro Publica?

Pro Publica was created by billionaire bankers a little more than 10 years ago. They aren't in need of any funding. Also, it's a bit of a stretch to say that pro publica is the standard of journalism or accountability. Pro Publica is an advocacy institution.

Former bankers who are now dead.

A billionaire once donated to my local food bank; that doesn't make the food bank financially independent.

Re: Facebook to Invest $300m in Supporting Local News

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Or Facebook to Invest $300m in Influencing Local News. Facebook newsfeed model inherently works against local news and small guys (unless some certain piece goes viral once in a while). Local news outlet based out of some small locality does not have a huge follower base that gets Facebook's attention. This is just another PR stunt by Facebook.

Same problem when using google youtube, they push CNN ahead of other news bloggers. CNN is also excluded from being blocked like normal channels.

The future of Facebook news is their curated hand picked news.

Re: Facebook to Invest $300m in Supporting Local News

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post #34
post #4

Ah yes the bastion of journalistic quality that is local news...wait...what? FB gets a lot of flak for fake news and then decides to invest in local news? Why not in institutions that set the standard for journalism and bring accountability such as Pro Publica?

Is Pro Publica going to cover your city council meetings or keep your state legislature accountable? What those government bodies do is important, and corruption can hide in them. Local TV news does suck, but local newspapers are vitally important.

Pro Publica does a lot of that, yes: https://www.propublica.org/topics/

Re: Facebook to Invest $300m in Supporting Local News

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's very closely tied to my real-world identity so I'm not comfortable linking it here at this time. It's only interesting to the people living in/around my small town, to anyone else it would just look like a generic small town news website full of unimportant small-town topics.

Are you capturing these folks from FB through email sign-ups? Have seen a couple local news orgs successfully get people to visit their site directly by investing in email.

I have a call-to-action on every page asking people to sign up for the newsletter, but the number of people who actually do that are so insignificant that it doesn't matter. Over the past year I've had about two dozen signups, compared to 15,000 people hitting the site.

I haven't explored more of the popular avenues for this though, things like "if the mouse moves to close the tab, show a pop up asking for a signup". It might convert but it's not something I'm comfortable doing at this point.

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