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EU Copyright Directive is a catastrophe for free expression and competition

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Re: EU Copyright Directive is a catastrophe for free expression and competition

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I want to open a i-shirt store and I'm in the EU. None of these will prevent me. Edit: typo... t-shirt

I have no idea what i-shirt is but it's likely that if an user uses copyrighted material for his i-shirt, you'll have to pay because it's your platform. Bonus points for not using a censorship filter in trying to do this.

No UGC will be allowed and the text you add will not be displayed anywhere :)

Re: EU Copyright Directive is a catastrophe for free expression and competition

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Yeah. Remove EU and I'm sure Russia will be happy to take over your little countries. Individually European countries are pretty weak. They're only strong as a common entity.

Why on earth would Russia want to take over Denmark?

Why do any country want to invade other countries?

Re: EU Copyright Directive is a catastrophe for free expression and competition

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> This particular kerfuffle comes because the Danish food authority recently classified kanelsnegler, or cinnamon rolls, as an everyday pastry https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2013/12/eu-worrie... Sounds like this is more of a "Denmark problem" than an "EU problem", unless you think the EU should simply not legislate the use of products that can cause health issues when present in high quantities in food (i…

How ever does the US survive this cinnamon overdose epidemic? The reaction to a bad regulation being passed shouldn't be "oh, well, the government can just exempt your specific product from that regulation".

The US regulates Coumarin (which is the actually regulated substance, but commonly found in cinnamon), although differently. (Tonka beans, which contain it in very high quantities, and pure Coumarin aren't allowed to be used in food stuffs, but unlike in the EU there's no limit on the actual content of the end product)

Re: EU Copyright Directive is a catastrophe for free expression and competition

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>I wonder whyI always get downvoted into oblivion for stating that which to me is an obvious fact Well when you write obviously non factual nonsense like >The EU is the opposite: One giant thing which does nothing well You tend to get downvoted. When you write hilarious nonsense like this >In Denmark, we've had 'cinnamon patrols' go from bakery to bakery to verify that only the allowed amount of cinnamon was sprinkle…

I'm glad you find it hillarious. You must not be paying for it.

For anybody following along, this kind of garbage rhetoric is exactly how Brexit started.

1. Spread misinformation and sow discontent against the EU

2. ???

3. Profit

Re: EU Copyright Directive is a catastrophe for free expression and competition

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Yeah. Remove EU and I'm sure Russia will be happy to take over your little countries. Individually European countries are pretty weak. They're only strong as a common entity.

Pretty sure NATO would survive the dismantling of some bureaucracy.

Will it? Trump is already discussing how to step down

Divide and conquer, one of the oldest strategies. Yes, I'm sure "countries can defend themselves alone" yup, right

Re: EU Copyright Directive is a catastrophe for free expression and competition

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I wish that the EFF would include links to the updated directive. The latest I can find is the language as of 2018-05-25 ( http://www.consilium.europa.eu/media/35373/st09134-en18.pdf ) which doesn't contain the terms "commercial platforms", "news site" or link. It does leave the definition of "unsubstantial parts" up to member states, which is indeed worrying from a single market perspective. Furthermore, that wordin…

This is a much better update: https://juliareda.eu/2019/01/article-13-almost-finished/

It describes the changes and why they will/will not work

Re: EU Copyright Directive is a catastrophe for free expression and competition

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Yeah. Remove EU and I'm sure Russia will be happy to take over your little countries. Individually European countries are pretty weak. They're only strong as a common entity.

Pretty sure NATO would survive the dismantling of some bureaucracy.

> Pretty sure NATO would survive the dismantling of some bureaucracy.

Then that's the next Brexit target, innit? Gin up some "grassroots" support for leaving that Mean Nasty NATO What Is Bad And Mean and just never you mind that the original talking points were translated from the Russian.

We know the Russians are working to dismantle everything on the European continent which could counterbalance their ambitions. NATO isn't any more immune than the EU is.

Re: EU Copyright Directive is a catastrophe for free expression and competition

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It seems like the cinnamon patrol comment is related to this, which does seem to indicate the interpretation of an EU law is to blame: https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2013/12/25/256602581/wh...

It seems like the EU explicitly made it so the cinnamon rolls wouldn't be affected: > The EU's regulations on a common type of cinnamon called cassia limit how much bakers can use: 50 milligrams per kilogram of dough, if it's a traditional or seasonal pastry, or 15 milligrams per kilogram if it's just a regular old everyday pastry. But the Denmark decided their traditional seasonal pastry was an everyday one > This p…

But a "kanelsnegl" is an everyday pastry in Denmark.

Re: EU Copyright Directive is a catastrophe for free expression and competition

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Right to be Forgotten, GDPR, and now this... pretty soon the barrier to entry will be so high that no new players would be able to get off the ground with an internet company in Europe.

You can count on HN commenters to through oranges, shoes, and candy floss into the same bag and blame all of those disparate things for everything.

Re: EU Copyright Directive is a catastrophe for free expression and competition

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>I wonder whyI always get downvoted into oblivion for stating that which to me is an obvious fact Well when you write obviously non factual nonsense like >The EU is the opposite: One giant thing which does nothing well You tend to get downvoted. When you write hilarious nonsense like this >In Denmark, we've had 'cinnamon patrols' go from bakery to bakery to verify that only the allowed amount of cinnamon was sprinkle…

>You tend to get downvoted. When you write hilarious nonsense like this Can you name anything the EU has done well?

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