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Will Headless Intel Woo AMD’s Lisa Su?

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Re: Will Headless Intel Woo AMD’s Lisa Su?

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Post by RussianCow »

cheeze wrote: post #6
PaulHoule wrote: post #2

Intel has been doing great as a business... In the sense of increasing margins and making customers pay for every little thing. (Except for integrated graphics, which are worthless, see https://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-f-series-9th-gen-pro... ) Intel's "headlesless" is a consequence of harvesting for years.

> Except for integrated graphics, which are worthless What!?

Not the OP, but I think they used "worthless" to mean that they are not bringing in any extra revenue over CPUs with no integrated graphics (see the link).

Re: Will Headless Intel Woo AMD’s Lisa Su?

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Post by cl0ckt0wer »

josteink wrote: post #3
PaulHoule wrote: post #2

Intel has been doing great as a business... In the sense of increasing margins and making customers pay for every little thing. (Except for integrated graphics, which are worthless, see https://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-f-series-9th-gen-pro... ) Intel's "headlesless" is a consequence of harvesting for years.

I wouldn’t call it worthless. Unless you’re a gamer or AI/ML-geek they are perfectly adequate for regular desktop needs like browsing the web or writing code. I certainly don’t long for a descrete GPU. In fact this is the only thing I miss going to Ryzen. Now I’ll have to buy a GPU.

There is a line of Ryzens with integrated GPU:

https://www.extremetech.com/computing/263683-amd-ryzen-5-240...

Re: Will Headless Intel Woo AMD’s Lisa Su?

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Post by TheOperator »

slantyyz wrote: post #19

> "Su’s CES keynote had the feel of a tipping point. A star was born. She even impressed people who have known her for many years." That's ridiculous. It's as though EETimes is pretending there have been no Ryzen keynotes in the past. Her keynotes have been way better than the average hardware keynote for some time now. The thing that makes her better than many others is that she clearly knows and understands the tec…

You have to have been sleeping to think Lisa Su only became a star at CES 2019.

Rumours of Intel acquiring AMD strike me as outlandish. I have doubts such a merger would even be approved given the monopolies that Intel would gain.

Re: Will Headless Intel Woo AMD’s Lisa Su?

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Post by TheOperator »

candiodari wrote: post #7

Can we please not use the term "WOO" just because AMD's CEO happens to be a woman ? Just don't. It's not hard.

You're the one making that connection. Not the reporters. Reporters also say that companies are "woo'ing" male executives all the time.

I also wouldn't care if they were actually using gendered language but this isn't even an instance of that. More likely they used the word "Woo" for the sake of wordplay with the name "Lisa Su"

Re: Will Headless Intel Woo AMD’s Lisa Su?

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Post by josteink »

cl0ckt0wer wrote: post #22
josteink wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wouldn’t call it worthless. Unless you’re a gamer or AI/ML-geek they are perfectly adequate for regular desktop needs like browsing the web or writing code. I certainly don’t long for a descrete GPU. In fact this is the only thing I miss going to Ryzen. Now I’ll have to buy a GPU.

There is a line of Ryzens with integrated GPU: https://www.extremetech.com/computing/263683-amd-ryzen-5-240...

Sure. But those are effectively lower end models and I find it a shame AMD don’t ship GPUs on the CPUs with higher core-counts.

Re: Will Headless Intel Woo AMD’s Lisa Su?

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Post by gumby »

candiodari wrote: post #7

Can we please not use the term "WOO" just because AMD's CEO happens to be a woman ? Just don't. It's not hard.

I think there are plenty of cases of this being used for men, for companies etc. Also, Junko Yoshida is a woman and, given the thin staffing of EE times these days, probably writes the headlines as well.

In short, I think this is OK. But I also upvoted your comment because I think it's worth discussing.

Re: Will Headless Intel Woo AMD’s Lisa Su?

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Post by slantyyz »

simlevesque wrote: post #5
josteink wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wouldn’t call it worthless. Unless you’re a gamer or AI/ML-geek they are perfectly adequate for regular desktop needs like browsing the web or writing code. I certainly don’t long for a descrete GPU. In fact this is the only thing I miss going to Ryzen. Now I’ll have to buy a GPU.

His link describes why they are worthless.

> His link describes why they are worthless.

His link only describes why they are worthless to the author of that article. It hardly means that they are worthless to the market at large.

Re: Will Headless Intel Woo AMD’s Lisa Su?

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Post by murphy214 »

TheOperator wrote: post #23
slantyyz wrote: post #19

> "Su’s CES keynote had the feel of a tipping point. A star was born. She even impressed people who have known her for many years." That's ridiculous. It's as though EETimes is pretending there have been no Ryzen keynotes in the past. Her keynotes have been way better than the average hardware keynote for some time now. The thing that makes her better than many others is that she clearly knows and understands the tec…

You have to have been sleeping to think Lisa Su only became a star at CES 2019. Rumours of Intel acquiring AMD strike me as outlandish. I have doubts such a merger would even be approved given the monopolies that Intel would gain.

Monopoly? They would still be getting absolutely destroyed in the mobile market?
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