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Will Headless Intel Woo AMD’s Lisa Su?

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Re: Will Headless Intel Woo AMD’s Lisa Su?

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Post by theandrewbailey »

josteink wrote: post #3
PaulHoule wrote: post #2

Intel has been doing great as a business... In the sense of increasing margins and making customers pay for every little thing. (Except for integrated graphics, which are worthless, see https://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-f-series-9th-gen-pro... ) Intel's "headlesless" is a consequence of harvesting for years.

I wouldn’t call it worthless. Unless you’re a gamer or AI/ML-geek they are perfectly adequate for regular desktop needs like browsing the web or writing code. I certainly don’t long for a descrete GPU. In fact this is the only thing I miss going to Ryzen. Now I’ll have to buy a GPU.

I welcome Intel discrete GPUs. If they are as fast as Nvidia's or AMD's, I'd consider buying one. The high end/gaming PC GPU market needs more players.

Re: Will Headless Intel Woo AMD’s Lisa Su?

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Post by stcredzero »

candiodari wrote: post #7

Can we please not use the term "WOO" just because AMD's CEO happens to be a woman ? Just don't. It's not hard.

Can we please not use the term "WOO" just because AMD's CEO happens to be a woman ? Just don't. It's not hard.

Can we please not imagine there is sexism just because there is some stretchy reference which can be made to marital traditions? Just don't. It's not hard.

"Woo" is often used in this very context, with both male and female employees, and has been since as far back as I can remember. In fact, it's not just used for CEOs, it's also used in the vernacular for anything involving finding personnel, where the variables are complex and the stakes are relatively high.

Re: Will Headless Intel Woo AMD’s Lisa Su?

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Post by josteink »

simlevesque wrote: post #5
josteink wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wouldn’t call it worthless. Unless you’re a gamer or AI/ML-geek they are perfectly adequate for regular desktop needs like browsing the web or writing code. I certainly don’t long for a descrete GPU. In fact this is the only thing I miss going to Ryzen. Now I’ll have to buy a GPU.

His link describes why they are worthless.

The fact that they’re effectively giving them away for free still don't make them worthless though.

Re: Will Headless Intel Woo AMD’s Lisa Su?

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Post by rdiddly »

candiodari wrote: post #7

Can we please not use the term "WOO" just because AMD's CEO happens to be a woman ? Just don't. It's not hard.

I've seen it used plenty for men too though. Ironically they were probably seduced (wooed if you will) more by the rhyme (woo/Su).

Mind you I still object to it, but on aesthetic grounds, i.e. it's lazy & cliché. "SoHo eateries woo Millenial foodies" would be my best attempt at a 100% cliché headline.

Re: Will Headless Intel Woo AMD’s Lisa Su?

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Post by okl »

FlyingBears wrote: post #14

AMD already licensed CPUs to another manufacturer in China. Any premium spent to acquire AMD would not be worth it quite quickly.

Buying AMD to get rid of their only remaining x86 competitor would be worth a very high premium. I don't get what that licensing deal, with a manufacturer that is only allowed to sell in China, has to do with it.

Re: Will Headless Intel Woo AMD’s Lisa Su?

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Post by coffekaesque »

digitalzombie wrote: post #10

No please. I do not want a monopoly in x86. Intel is very greedy in their cpu prices. Their consumer cpu never gave the option of ecc memory and have gimp certain things. AMD was more flexible. Having two company competing will be great for the consumers.

If they could get away with it I think it would be worse than mobile games monetization

https://www.zdnet.com/article/facepalm-of-the-day-intel-char...

https://i.imgur.com/FTrP0gy.jpg

Re: Will Headless Intel Woo AMD’s Lisa Su?

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Post by tallanvor »

candiodari wrote: post #7

Can we please not use the term "WOO" just because AMD's CEO happens to be a woman ? Just don't. It's not hard.

There's nothing sexist about the word woo. Try doing a search of news articles and you'll clearly see that woo is used to refer to men, women, and groups regularly.

Here's one example from earlier this year: https://triblive.com/sports/columnists/timbenz/breakfastwith... "First call: NFC Pro Bowler trying to woo Steelers' Antonio Brown to 49ers?"

Re: Will Headless Intel Woo AMD’s Lisa Su?

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Post by slantyyz »

> "Su’s CES keynote had the feel of a tipping point. A star was born. She even impressed people who have known her for many years."

That's ridiculous. It's as though EETimes is pretending there have been no Ryzen keynotes in the past.

Her keynotes have been way better than the average hardware keynote for some time now.

The thing that makes her better than many others is that she clearly knows and understands the technical details of her company's products, and she comes off as genuinely stoked about how great the products are.

Ever since the first keynote I saw of her for the early Ryzen announcements, I've been making a point to watch any keynote she's done.

Re: Will Headless Intel Woo AMD’s Lisa Su?

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Post by stcredzero »

dmos62 wrote: post #4

That's a pretty good title, in a literary sense.

The term "woo" has been used in such contexts as far back as I can remember. It's quite apt, as it's an arrangement involving many variables, the subculture of a group of people, and relatively high stakes. It's not only applied to CEOs, but high value employees. (Of both genders, might I add. I seem to recall that it's even been applied to actual princes at times.)
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