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Yes. In fact, completely passive devices can log the MAC address of any device "searching" for a wireless network whether or not any AP is even in the area.
Fascinating. Oh gee. I could set up a device in my home that over time can probably give me enough data to figure out schedules of my neighbours.
Fun fact: MAC addresses are not unique.
Sure, they can be spoofed, but do nic vendors try to keep them unique, or do they reuse them from a pool, like after the card is 10+ years old?
Sometimes vendors would burn duplicates by accident. Sometimes they would simply run out and production would loop (there's "only" 16.7mil addrs per manufacturer prefix). Sometimes they print the same run in different geographical areas, because the MAC only matters in a broadcast domain. Often they just wouldn't keep track of what they assigned.
I just think it's funny to realize that people read "unique (to a broadcast domain)" and assumed that could mean "unique (everywhere)" because it's a really big number.
To everyone who is very smart in here saying "MAC addresses are not unique, MAC addresses can be spoofed". The article is about German police trying to find a criminal using one public identifier. It's not about German prosecutors trying to prove guilt in court with a MAC address. Kind of like "have you seen this person who is [non-unique changable identifier]?"
http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/hanover-police-o...
https://www.nytimes.com/2003/04/10/world/kidnapping-has-germ...
https://abcnews.go.com/International/video-showing-german-po...
https://www.dw.com/en/child-murderer-wins-damages-over-polic...
https://www.zeit.de/gesellschaft/zeitgeschehen/2018-10/jva-k...
Think LONG and HARD before you ever either ask these people for help or point these people to someone. There are many incidents with unprovoked violence and even some incidents involving police torture and lethal force used against immigrants with little or even no provocation at all.
I would say it is very much NOT moral to help here. I know, this won't be a popular statement, but it just isn't.
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This argument largely does not exist outside English law. Though I very much doubt it would apply, if it did.
IIRC, it's barely a concept in English law, primarily US law. It has however seen some use in the ECHR , notably against Germany (citing various US court cases): > the applicant sought a declaration that [...] all items of evidence[...], which had become known to the investigation authorities because of the confession extracted – the so-called “fruit of the poisonous tree” – was prohibited [...] The Chamber considere…
To everyone who is very smart in here saying "MAC addresses are not unique, MAC addresses can be spoofed". The article is about German police trying to find a criminal using one public identifier. It's not about German prosecutors trying to prove guilt in court with a MAC address. Kind of like "have you seen this person who is [non-unique changable identifier]?"
You mean this police force will do nothing wrong and treat suspects fairly ? No they won't. ESPECIALLY if the suspect is an immigrant, but it's not like they haven't gone WAY overboard with German suspects as well. http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/hanover-police-o... https://www.nytimes.com/2003/04/10/world/kidnapping-has-germ... https://abcnews.go.com/International/video-showing-german-po... https://www.d…
I'm failing to see what provoked such a response, given the comment you're replying to.
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You mean this police force will do nothing wrong and treat suspects fairly ? No they won't. ESPECIALLY if the suspect is an immigrant, but it's not like they haven't gone WAY overboard with German suspects as well. http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/hanover-police-o... https://www.nytimes.com/2003/04/10/world/kidnapping-has-germ... https://abcnews.go.com/International/video-showing-german-po... https://www.d…
> You mean this police force will do nothing wrong and treat suspects fairly ? I'm failing to see what provoked such a response, given the comment you're replying to.