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China sentences Canadian man to death in drug case linked to Huawei row

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This man Winston Sterzel [0] has been predicting something like this will happen in China, as they have no tolerance for drugs due to the horrors of the opium crisis. [0] = https://www.youtube.com/user/serpentza

>they have no tolerance for drugs due to the horrors of the opium crisis. Are you sure? They are the huge exporter of Fentanyl to North America while the Chinese Government turns a blind eye.

That's warfare.

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It's interesting to me how much China is behaving very much like a "gang", like the Crips or Bloods from the 80's. "You take one of ours, we'll grab some of yours." Doesn't matter what the reasons for the grabs are, it's just posturing. It's sad when you're international relations are at the level of hoodlums.

That's always the case. Interpreting international relations as spats between gang members (or 8 year-olds) clarifies a lot of things.

I’d take a step deeper and realize that this is glorified tribalism that’s stuck in humans. We evolved into a civilized species but the idea of territorial tribalism is embedded deep into our very psyche.

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Chinese leadership doesn't want Meng Wanzhou to talk, revealing the full extent of Huawei misdeeds. The new sentence for Schellenberg is - I believe - a message of solidarity for Meng's consumption and less an attempt to manipulate the Canadian justice system. Keep in-mind Shellenberg was sentenced to 15 years. A re-sentencing like this is unusual and experts say manipulated. The sooner Meng is extradited to the US, the faster Canada can get of the middle... though I doubt it will help Shellenberg's plight.

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If he is not Canadian, would it be different for such drug case?

Not sure about China but in many Asian countries drug-related crimes are considered to be very, VERY serious, and often lead to death sentencies: Vietnam, Thailand, Phillipines all have very strict laws here.

For non-foreigners this normally means death sentence. Foreigners do sometimes get some sort of special treatment.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

>they have no tolerance for drugs due to the horrors of the opium crisis. Are you sure? They are the huge exporter of Fentanyl to North America while the Chinese Government turns a blind eye.

That's warfare.

Put like this, it sounds like repaying for opium.

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At this point I think I'm too afraid to ever go to China. You can't get justice there, and you can be swept up into some stupid diplomatic spat. Don't they realize how short-sighted this is? This is incredibly harmful to tourism.

He was already a convicted drug trafficker. I don’t see any indication that his original 15-year sentence was improper. It is possible that he was falsely convicted, of course, but I don’t know that this is more likely in China than elsewhere.

Suddenly changing his sentence to death is rather suspicious, but at least for me it doesn’t make a huge difference compared to a 15-year sentence.

Random anecdote: I just got back to the US from several weeks in China. By far the most uncomfortable and worrying law-enforcement interaction of the trip was going through US immigration control on the way back.

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At this point I think I'm too afraid to ever go to China. You can't get justice there, and you can be swept up into some stupid diplomatic spat. Don't they realize how short-sighted this is? This is incredibly harmful to tourism.

This is only harmful to tourism if you understand "smuggling ecstasy" as "tourism".

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This man Winston Sterzel [0] has been predicting something like this will happen in China, as they have no tolerance for drugs due to the horrors of the opium crisis. [0] = https://www.youtube.com/user/serpentza

>they have no tolerance for drugs due to the horrors of the opium crisis. Are you sure? They are the huge exporter of Fentanyl to North America while the Chinese Government turns a blind eye.

That is: no tolerance for foreigners smuggling drugs to China and contributing to problems of domestic drug addiction. China historically fought wars against the British Empire over this issue, and see it in a context of anti-colonialism.
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