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Prague: A European capital cobbled with Jewish gravestones

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Re: Prague: A European capital cobbled with Jewish gravestones

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post #19

Can the Czech afford to have decency and replace the stones? How much could it possibly cost? How are they not disgusted walking on those streets? It's funny how stories like this are cause for some to be upset at being reminded of the Holocaust. Yet the headstones are walked on daily. They Jews are certainly reminded every day.

There aren’t that many Jews left there to be reminded.

Good point.

Re: Prague: A European capital cobbled with Jewish gravestones

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Berlin has 10cm^2 brass memorials set into the pavements where (mostly) Jewish people, sometimes whole families, were killed during the Third Reich. Look down and you will see them everywhere there. It's a touching and present reminder, to give pause for perspective in everyday life. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stolperstein [edited for accuracy]

I'm never sure how appropriate memorials are on the ground, where people will walk on them, will be sick on them, dogs will go to the toilet on them, etc. I guess they also get worn down much more quickly.

Given that people these days will more likely stare into their phones, that is towards the ground, I guess it is.

Re: Prague: A European capital cobbled with Jewish gravestones

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Berlin has 10cm^2 brass memorials set into the pavements where (mostly) Jewish people, sometimes whole families, were killed during the Third Reich. Look down and you will see them everywhere there. It's a touching and present reminder, to give pause for perspective in everyday life. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stolperstein [edited for accuracy]

These are also Pokemon Go stops, because Niantic ingested some global POI database without considering local contexts. It’s sort of funny, but also pretty offensive.

https://twitter.com/jlev/status/1026068175966928896?s=21

Re: Prague: A European capital cobbled with Jewish gravestones

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Can the Czech afford to have decency and replace the stones? How much could it possibly cost? How are they not disgusted walking on those streets? It's funny how stories like this are cause for some to be upset at being reminded of the Holocaust. Yet the headstones are walked on daily. They Jews are certainly reminded every day.

It's just a stone.

Re: Prague: A European capital cobbled with Jewish gravestones

#35
post #30

Czech people don't have a lot of respect for graveyards in general, se this one in Turnov https://cs.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soubor:Turnov-%C5%BEidovsk%C...

I am not surprised this monstrosity was build only one year after the Velvet Revolution (meani g it must was planned and approved during the communism era). Still, there was a very bitter public debate recently, before a Roma concentration camp was expropriated and turned into a memorial (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lety_concentration_camp).

Needless to say, since the outbreak of Russia sponsored fake news and propaganda, the Czech society is increasingly divided, with racism and xenophobia on the raise.

Re: Prague: A European capital cobbled with Jewish gravestones

#36
post #26

Modern people spend so little time thinking about death that they often are incensed when they hear stories like these. For example, graveyard real estate is at a premium. More people die than can be fit in them. When you die, your corpse lies in the ground for a few years up to a decade at best. Then the gravedigger digs up your remains, put them in the trash and the next corpse is put in the hole. This is why grave…

> When you die, your corpse lies in the ground for a few years up to a decade at best.

This isn't true for anyone I know of.

Those that can afford it have effectively permanent plots (until the descendents die off, at least).

Those that can't, or choose not to, opt for cremation.

Re: Prague: A European capital cobbled with Jewish gravestones

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post #26

Modern people spend so little time thinking about death that they often are incensed when they hear stories like these. For example, graveyard real estate is at a premium. More people die than can be fit in them. When you die, your corpse lies in the ground for a few years up to a decade at best. Then the gravedigger digs up your remains, put them in the trash and the next corpse is put in the hole. This is why grave…

> When you die, your corpse lies in the ground for a few years up to a decade at best. This isn't true for anyone I know of. Those that can afford it have effectively permanent plots (until the descendents die off, at least). Those that can't, or choose not to, opt for cremation.

Mea culpa. Apparently it depends a lot on the jurisdiction with more densely populated countries offering shorter leases than sparsely populated ones. In Europe, one to two decades seem common with options for relatives to extend the lease. http://www.talkdeath.com/cemetery-overcrowding-leading-europ...

Re: Prague: A European capital cobbled with Jewish gravestones

#39

Berlin has 10cm^2 brass memorials set into the pavements where (mostly) Jewish people, sometimes whole families, were killed during the Third Reich. Look down and you will see them everywhere there. It's a touching and present reminder, to give pause for perspective in everyday life. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stolperstein [edited for accuracy]

100 cm² (10×10 cm), not 10 cm² (3.16×3.16 cm).
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