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Re: The escape-room games industry is booming

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Post by TomK32 »

ehsankia wrote: post #7

> are explicitly about not having an easy way out Really? I've done a dozen and in every single one, you could simply exit back from the door you entered from. The rooms were never truly about "escaping", at least past the lore and story. They are about searching for clues and solving puzzles. I've never been in one where we were explicitly locked inside. Generally you just make your way through and exit out a differ…

Just this month five Polish teens died in a fire in an escape room. Shutdowns are the consequence unless the companies up their game in regards to safety and monitoring.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-46781545

Re: The escape-room games industry is booming

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Post by EliRivers »

wav-part wrote: post #44
fipple wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They died. https://www.researchgate.net/publication/312511670/figure/fi...

But how much of that is due to "fire code" ? Compare it with lawless parts of the world. You would find that horrible-ness is going down everywhere. China advanced only after having less laws. Whats common in all these instances ? Economic freedom. More economic freedom means more prosparity. "fire code" are only good at taking credit.

How much of people being able to get out of burning buildings is due to the fire code?

Basically all of it? Is this some kind of trick question? Economic freedom doesn't cause fire-safety.

China advanced only after having less laws

Yet now, China's lawlessness is a drag on advancing. The cost of low-trust in a modern economy is huge.

Re: The escape-room games industry is booming

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Post by hemmert »

I launched a print-at-home escape room with an iOS/Android 'game master' app last year:

https://www.escape-team.com

We're at 25K downloads, 4.5 star ratings and it's growing nicely. Groupon sold over 1K mission packs in one week.

Last month, we added user-generated missions, and people use them for education, birthday parties and everything else that needs to be spiced up by a ticking bomb. ;)

Re: The escape-room games industry is booming

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Post by wav-part »

EliRivers wrote: post #54
wav-part wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But how much of that is due to "fire code" ? Compare it with lawless parts of the world. You would find that horrible-ness is going down everywhere. China advanced only after having less laws. Whats common in all these instances ? Economic freedom. More economic freedom means more prosparity. "fire code" are only good at taking credit.

How much of people being able to get out of burning buildings is due to the fire code? Basically all of it? Is this some kind of trick question? Economic freedom doesn't cause fire-safety. China advanced only after having less laws Yet now, China's lawlessness is a drag on advancing. The cost of low-trust in a modern economy is huge.

Businesses did not make buildings safer just because someone told them to. It is naturally considered a bad idea to kill your customers. Businesses would always create an environment that generate more profit. Safer establishments are one of many ways. Businesses would _always_ stay ahead of any bureaucratic recommendations/requirements, because they have the incentives. Rather misguided/outdated laws are real problems, because gov lacks the (strong enough) incentive.

> The cost of low-trust in a modern economy is huge.

So you dont trust anyone unless gov tells you to ?

Re: The escape-room games industry is booming

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Post by EliRivers »

wav-part wrote: post #56
EliRivers wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How much of people being able to get out of burning buildings is due to the fire code? Basically all of it? Is this some kind of trick question? Economic freedom doesn't cause fire-safety. China advanced only after having less laws Yet now, China's lawlessness is a drag on advancing. The cost of low-trust in a modern economy is huge.

Businesses did not make buildings safer just because someone told them to. It is naturally considered a bad idea to kill your customers. Businesses would always create an environment that generate more profit. Safer establishments are one of many ways. Businesses would _always_ stay ahead of any bureaucratic recommendations/requirements, because they have the incentives. Rather misguided/outdated laws are real proble…

Businesses did not make buildings safer just because someone told them to.

I disagree, and I believe the evidence supports me. Buildings became fire safe AFTER regulation and enforcement in country after country.

It is naturally considered a bad idea to kill your customers.

Yet in China, the milk powder suppliers killed their customers and now nobody trusts the milk. Likewise various other foods and also medicines in China. Instead, people spend a fortune smuggling safe food across borders. This is just one example amongst many. The same story exists in country after country.

So you dont trust anyone unless gov tells you to?

The gov doesn't have to tell me who to trust. I live in a country with strong protection laws. I live in a country where buildings get inspected and dangerous buildings shut down. I live in a country where I can trust the food I buy. There is not a government approved list of safe food shops. The government doesn't have to tell me which milk powder is safe; the government enforces a system in which I can trust, and in doing so create prosperity and safety together. I trust; I don't need a gov approved list, because I can buy food on the assumption that it's all safe by default. If I was living in a low-trust society, where the government was ineffective, that's when I would need a list of known safe sources.

You are arguing from a libertarian ideology. I don't have an ideology; I only have evidence.

Re: The escape-room games industry is booming

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Post by [deleted] »

nanoseltzer wrote: post #4

Honestly I fail to see their appeal. I did one and it was so boring. I think the main “appeal” is that it locks you in a room where everyone is forced to actually interact and not just stare at their phones. It seems to be mostly used for corporate outings or clubs, where people aren’t quite comfortable with each other yet. I’m thinking it would also be good for group dates. But for with your real friends with whom y…

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Re: The escape-room games industry is booming

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Post by 0db532a0 »

stevekemp wrote: post #39
CJKinni wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I loved the Crystal Maze as a kid. It started back up again a couple years ago. It's now hosted by Richard Ayoade.

There have been a few presenters, as you'll know, but Richard O'Brian is still the only person I can see doing the job.

I have a fond memory of coming across him in the street in Muswell Hill at the age of four or five. It was my favourite show at the time.

Re: The escape-room games industry is booming

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Post by dang »

wav-part wrote: post #44
fipple wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They died. https://www.researchgate.net/publication/312511670/figure/fi...

But how much of that is due to "fire code" ? Compare it with lawless parts of the world. You would find that horrible-ness is going down everywhere. China advanced only after having less laws. Whats common in all these instances ? Economic freedom. More economic freedom means more prosparity. "fire code" are only good at taking credit.

Please don't post ideological boilerplate to Hacker News. It's repetitive, therefore tedious, therefore off topic here.

Also, swipes like "So you dont trust anyone unless gov tells you to" break the site guidelines. Please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and follow the rules when posting here.

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