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The Era of Easy Recycling May Be Coming to an End

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Re: The Era of Easy Recycling May Be Coming to an End

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We need to focus more on reuse than on recycling. I'd like to see regulations and tax incentives to encourage beverage companies to use glass bottles that can be washed and reused, rather than disposable aluminum or (even worse) plastic.

It's a common sight in Silicon Valley offices to see greasy empty pizza boxes in the recycling bin. People just don't seem to realize that greasy cardboard can't be recycled, and might even contaminate other material.

Re: The Era of Easy Recycling May Be Coming to an End

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I can't wait for the glorious era of fusion-powered recycling. Dump literally anything in the bin. It all gets vaporized (thanks to plentiful, cheap energy), and is centrifuge-sorted into its constituent atoms. Out of curiosity... Just how delusional am I?

High heat is one of the ways PCBs are reprocessed to constituents. Given the energy cost to make long chain molecules it seems a shame to spend energy breaking them. I think it might be better to not make as much in the first place and make kinds which are thermo-mouldable to repurpose

Re: The Era of Easy Recycling May Be Coming to an End

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post #10

From a linked nat geo article: “I never thought plastic recycling would work,” says Roland Geyer, an engineering professor at the University of California, Santa Barbara and author of the study “Production, use and fate of all plastics ever made.” “There is a viable business model around metal, but plastics never has had that. It’s too low-value, too contaminated, with too many different polymers mixed together. And…

I hassled decor (home plastic container company) about BPA and they said their food grade containers had never had BPA. Oddly they saw no need to market on this.

It’s a risk area because the risks of BPA likely exist in whatever they are using.

I always assume there’s something nasty under the surface with plastic drink and serving ware — like 6 months after the first BPA studies hit the press, GE sold its plastic and silicone divisions.

Re: The Era of Easy Recycling May Be Coming to an End

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Some domestic recycling was partially sorted to separate cardboard and paper from glass and metal. I think cost shifting and effort/cost decisions here are heading back to the user/consumer input end having more work to do. Incentives here would have to be things like a discount on the waste levy.

Re: The Era of Easy Recycling May Be Coming to an End

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post #11

We need to focus more on reuse than on recycling. I'd like to see regulations and tax incentives to encourage beverage companies to use glass bottles that can be washed and reused, rather than disposable aluminum or (even worse) plastic. It's a common sight in Silicon Valley offices to see greasy empty pizza boxes in the recycling bin. People just don't seem to realize that greasy cardboard can't be recycled, and mig…

But as the article suggest, most glass is contaminated and thrown away.

Re: The Era of Easy Recycling May Be Coming to an End

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From a linked nat geo article: “I never thought plastic recycling would work,” says Roland Geyer, an engineering professor at the University of California, Santa Barbara and author of the study “Production, use and fate of all plastics ever made.” “There is a viable business model around metal, but plastics never has had that. It’s too low-value, too contaminated, with too many different polymers mixed together. And…

> you can only make it work with a really low cost of labor.

Yet, isn’t that what automation provides? It has been two decades since supermarkets in the Nordic countries have whizbang bottle-return machines that take back plastic, aluminium, and glass bottles as long as the barcode is still legible. Is there really no way to make a machine that scans the barcode of various other forms of plastic packaging (like yoghurt containers, ketchup bottles, etc.) and then directs the item to the appropriate container? Since the machine will know the exact categorization of the packaging on the basis of the barcode, then consumers would not be required to correctly sort plastic rubbish themselves.

Re: The Era of Easy Recycling May Be Coming to an End

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From a linked nat geo article: “I never thought plastic recycling would work,” says Roland Geyer, an engineering professor at the University of California, Santa Barbara and author of the study “Production, use and fate of all plastics ever made.” “There is a viable business model around metal, but plastics never has had that. It’s too low-value, too contaminated, with too many different polymers mixed together. And…

Industrial-grade plastics are recycled to some degree, but only certain plastics are and they are collected completely separated by type and coloring (usually just natural or black). Only a tiny number of companies are able to do this.

Re: The Era of Easy Recycling May Be Coming to an End

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post #16
post #11

We need to focus more on reuse than on recycling. I'd like to see regulations and tax incentives to encourage beverage companies to use glass bottles that can be washed and reused, rather than disposable aluminum or (even worse) plastic. It's a common sight in Silicon Valley offices to see greasy empty pizza boxes in the recycling bin. People just don't seem to realize that greasy cardboard can't be recycled, and mig…

But as the article suggest, most glass is contaminated and thrown away.

With single-stream recycling.

Re: The Era of Easy Recycling May Be Coming to an End

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post #11

We need to focus more on reuse than on recycling. I'd like to see regulations and tax incentives to encourage beverage companies to use glass bottles that can be washed and reused, rather than disposable aluminum or (even worse) plastic. It's a common sight in Silicon Valley offices to see greasy empty pizza boxes in the recycling bin. People just don't seem to realize that greasy cardboard can't be recycled, and mig…

It would be a great way to differentiate retail.

Get your authorized Tide refill at Target instead of having Amazon ship it. People don’t like glass because of the energy used to produce it, but it’s always seemed like a no brainer to me.

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