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Re: Ask HN: How do you organize everything you want to do?

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Post by justadudeama »

b_b wrote: post #29

I would recommend for you to read and implement the organization/productivity system from Getting Things Done by David Allen [0]. It discusses essentially your main problems of dividing up your life into projects and timing yourself. The system also includes sections for putting some of your ideas in an 'Incubate', basically putting it off for another day once you get through what you have. Having a running list of a…

I agree with this as well. Reading this book really helped me get organized.

Some of the information on it is getting a _little_ bit dated. In particular, it talks a lot about the different 'contexts' you have your tasks to complete, like at home, at work, at a coffee shop, etc. I feel like this holds up a little bit less nowadays, because almost the entirety of all my work can be done if I have my laptop with me.

This book is a great foundation for you to build off of and make your own 'system'.

Re: Ask HN: How do you organize everything you want to do?

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Post by guigar »

I use a pen and a cheap notebook (A7, squared). I organize different topics (e.g. work, personal, etc) in different pages. For tasks I follow the basic bulletjournal ideas.

I tried to use technology before (particularly a smartphone), but the UX still sucks compared to the pen and paper. For long texts, typing on a screen is too slow. For small texts, the unlock-open the app-type cycle is annoying.

Re: Ask HN: How do you organize everything you want to do?

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Post by orev »

justadudeama wrote: post #81
b_b wrote: post #29

I would recommend for you to read and implement the organization/productivity system from Getting Things Done by David Allen [0]. It discusses essentially your main problems of dividing up your life into projects and timing yourself. The system also includes sections for putting some of your ideas in an 'Incubate', basically putting it off for another day once you get through what you have. Having a running list of a…

I agree with this as well. Reading this book really helped me get organized. Some of the information on it is getting a _little_ bit dated. In particular, it talks a lot about the different 'contexts' you have your tasks to complete, like at home, at work, at a coffee shop, etc. I feel like this holds up a little bit less nowadays, because almost the entirety of all my work can be done if I have my laptop with me. Th…

I don’t think the idea of contexts is dated at all, it just sounds like it doesn’t apply to your situation specifically because you have special circumstances. Most people don’t have that flexibility. It’s important to understand when things don’t apply only to you vs when they really don’t apply generally (when giving advice).

Re: Ask HN: How do you organize everything you want to do?

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Post by BeetleB »

b_b wrote: post #29

I would recommend for you to read and implement the organization/productivity system from Getting Things Done by David Allen [0]. It discusses essentially your main problems of dividing up your life into projects and timing yourself. The system also includes sections for putting some of your ideas in an 'Incubate', basically putting it off for another day once you get through what you have. Having a running list of a…

After trying GTD for about 7-8 years, I gave up.

I mean, I kept using it, thinking it was working, but I'd look back and ask myself key questions:

1. How often do I stop looking at my lists, because I felt overwhelmed?

2. How often do I need to spend a large amount of time cleaning up the lists?

3. How often are things getting missed? How often am I doing things not in my GTD lists because I couldn't figure out how to put it in there?

4. How often do I tweak my GTD system to fix the above?

And so on - I realized that while GTD was of some help, it was not really working.

It did have some useful things/ideas, and as such it was not at all a waste. However, it really didn't do a good job of the fact that my lists were huge. I think he recommends looking at your Someday/Maybe in the weekly (or monthly?) review. That list is huge.

Even the TODO list can be large with his system. I don't think he addresses granularity well. Should my TODOs be the mundane small things, or just the big picture project (he leans towards the former). In reality, the potential Next Action on a project could be multiple things, so I would have multiple TODOs (it's not always clear which one I can do first due to external constraints).

His system is mostly priority agnostic. He does address it a little (10000 ft view, etc), but it was very vague.

No clear guidance on how to know if you're trying to do too much. Especially needed with GTD, because as a system, it makes it easy to try to do too much.

I think if someone could write a book with all the stuff GTD is poor at or doesn't address, with solutions, then GTD + that system may actually be great.

It's a good book, but don't beat yourself up if it doesn't work well for you. Try to tweak it to your needs, and if that doesn't work, look for something else.

Re: Ask HN: How do you organize everything you want to do?

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Post by wpietri »

I'm a firm kanban person, and I think it might help you. I happen to use the tool KanbanFlow for this. [1] But I also have done it with index cards on a wall [2], and Trello's ok, too.

Boiling it down, Kanban approaches require you to 1) break big things down into small deliverables, 2) describe your workflow in columns, placing the units of work in the correct columns, and 3) setting strong work-in-process limits on the columns.

For example, my main board has these columns and WIP limits: backlog (∞), soon (12), today (5), pending (3), in progress (3), and done (∞). Work normally flows from left to right, with the exception of the pending column, which is used when something in progress gets stuck because I'm waiting on some external event.

If I've finished working on something, I try to look first in the in progress column, so that I can finish off something on going. Next, I'll check the pending column, to see if I can unstick anything. Only if those two are solid will I look at the today column. Last thing at night or first thing in the morning, I'll look everything, load up the today column, and make sure it reflects my current priorities.

I should note that the WIP limits are integral to this. There are two basic ways you can run a workflow. One is a pull system, where running out of things to do means I pull something forward. I'm mentally standing at the "done" end of the board and pulling things through one at a time. This is very different than a push system, where I mentally stand at the backlog end and stuff things in, hoping useful work gets squeeze out the other end. WIP limits help keep me honest, in that the board is not about what I want to accomplish; it's what I am accomplishing.

I think the Kanban approach will be helpful to you in two ways. One, because it's a pull system, the amount of time one spends reorganizing is limited. At worse, I reorganize every time I finish something. But hopefully, because I already have small numbers of top priorities in the today and soon columns, it'll be easy for me to pull without working about everything I have to do.

Two, it sounds like you're trying to do more than you can. Executive you has made a grand annual plan, but worker you is struggling to juggle priorities and allocate time. This is not just stressful; as you say, it's inefficient. Optimize for worker you, because that's where things actually happen.

In addition to the Kanban board, I also use Evernote to keep a "projects" notebook. It's one page per project idea, and for active projects that page turns into a journal. I'll often describe future plans there, which I will mine for to-do entries as I pull things in. But those future visions aren't consistent or complete; they're just top-of-head notions. That much more efficient than trying to express my ever-changing vision in work-management tools.

I hope that helps!

[1] https://kanbanflow.com/

[2] http://williampietri.com/writing/2015/the-big-board/

Re: Ask HN: How do you organize everything you want to do?

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Post by j45 »

b_b wrote: post #29

I would recommend for you to read and implement the organization/productivity system from Getting Things Done by David Allen [0]. It discusses essentially your main problems of dividing up your life into projects and timing yourself. The system also includes sections for putting some of your ideas in an 'Incubate', basically putting it off for another day once you get through what you have. Having a running list of a…

I second Getting Things Done. This book is a little engine of productivity. It was responsible for a good chunk of any special productivity I've been perceived to have.

The book is easy to start with as your read it because it ties together skills you already have with creating an air tight system that enables your brain to trust you trust you not to forget anything - lowering your mental and cognitive load so you can focus in the present by taking a unique approach..

It literally lets you collect every random thought that has no relevance to the moment, capture it in a "someday/maybe" pile and put it away for future review. The brain, one emptied is ready to focus.

The new edition is updated for digital life too, which is great, I try to read it every year or two as well to keep sharp, the current read has been a nice refresher.

Currently using the newest 2Do app between Android/MacOS/Windows /iOS. It's really decent inter platform tool. If you're all Mac a lot of people like omnifocus too. I found other apps (things, toodle, rtm) lack the ability to break apart projects into super detail when needed but otherwise are great.

There are a few other books that help build a car around this engine (Mindset, Focal Point, So good they can't ignore you, Deep Work), but a car without an engine isn't a car.

Re: Ask HN: How do you organize everything you want to do?

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Post by taurath »

I use trello for idea and known todo ingestion, and also daily todo lists so that I’m still using it each day. I have a problem of not realizing how much I actually do in a day so I put literally everything big and small into a “live” completed tab.

For managing, I use a chrome plugin on desktop that lets you tile the sections which is easier to deal with. I have a separate instance for work stuff since I don’t want to be thinking about it when I get home. It’s nice because it’ll work offline and syncs between devices for free.

Re: Ask HN: How do you organize everything you want to do?

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Post by chasd00 »

I make a spreadsheet with columns task, LOE ( 1-5, 1 = highest LOE ), Priority ( 1-5, 5 = highest priority ). Then sum the LOE and Priority columns, sort the sum desc, there's your task list.

This makes highest priority but lowest level of effort tasks come to the top which maximizes productivity (in my case anyway)

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