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Saudi Women, Tired of Restraints, Find Ways to Flee

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For those leaving I imagine it seems like they're leaving forever, family, friends, everything you knew is gone. There's no way to know if you ever can go back considering the possible consequences and you're often going to places that aren't familiar. That's a rough choice.

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For those leaving I imagine it seems like they're leaving forever, family, friends, everything you knew is gone. There's no way to know if you ever can go back considering the possible consequences and you're often going to places that aren't familiar. That's a rough choice.

It's worth to mention the consequences explicitly: if you happen to mention you're fleeing because of religious oppression it may be considered apostasy, which is punishable by death[1]. Saudi Arabia is a very thorough implementation of Islam, and therefore a disgusting country.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_religion_in_Saudi_A...

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For those leaving I imagine it seems like they're leaving forever, family, friends, everything you knew is gone. There's no way to know if you ever can go back considering the possible consequences and you're often going to places that aren't familiar. That's a rough choice.

True, but in a major city in Canada at that age, she will have no problem making friends. Just has to contend with her first winter. Otherwise her timing coudn't be better, with diplomatic relations being the disaster they are now.

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For those leaving I imagine it seems like they're leaving forever, family, friends, everything you knew is gone. There's no way to know if you ever can go back considering the possible consequences and you're often going to places that aren't familiar. That's a rough choice.

It's worth to mention the consequences explicitly: if you happen to mention you're fleeing because of religious oppression it may be considered apostasy, which is punishable by death[1]. Saudi Arabia is a very thorough implementation of Islam, and therefore a disgusting country. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_religion_in_Saudi_A...

> Saudi Arabia is a very thorough implementation of Islam, and therefore a disgusting country.

You make the assumption that the Saudi version of Islam is the only valid one. It's not.

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I feel that this story by the BBC, presumably filed by Jonathan Head (https://twitter.com/pakhead), was what spread wide awareness of Rahaf's realtime emergency situation:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-46773625

I was reading r/worldnews and came across this on page two. It was so strangely under-voted. I just entered the twitter URL in that screengrab and saw a scarily fresh video of her attempts of blocking the door to her hotel room (air-side @ BKK, "Miracle Hotel", where they had put her waiting for a flight to Kuwait). That made it so real. I posted that link and it got thousands of upvotes very, very quickly. I hope that spread some awareness, somehow.

Afterwards I feel quite a bit upset that media in Sweden under-reported this event. I'm pretty sure it's the confused feminism/Islam alliance that caused this.

The countries whose journalists really stepped up here were: The UK and Australia.

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Read this wonderful, but appalling book (true story) over December:

Princess: A True Story of Life Behind the Veil in Saudi Arabia

PRINCESS describes the life of Sultana Al Sa'ud, a princess in the royal house of Saudi Arabia. Hidden behind her black veil, she is a prisoner, jailed by her father, her husband and her country.

Sultana tells of appalling oppressions, everyday occurrences that in any other culture would be seen as shocking human rights violations: thirteen-year-old girls forced to marry men five times their age, young women killed by drowning, stoning, or isolation in the "women's room."

PRINCESS is a testimony to a woman of indomitable spirit and courage, and you will never forget her or her Muslim sisters.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B004J17GY4/ref=tmm_kin_title_...

Before I only vaguely knew of the struggles of women in Saudi Arabia.

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