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Re: Japan's Latest Rock Star Is A 3D Hologram - Draws Huge Crowds

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Post by kwantam »

camtarn wrote: post #12
djtumolo wrote: post #8

Is this really that different from Gorillaz? They are also cartoon personas that perform music. If it gets to the point where an artificial intelligence composes and performs, then we will be in Gibson's Sprawl.

Slightly different. Gorillaz band members are usually voiced by one real artist (although this artist can change from album to album), whereas Hatsune Miku is one step removed - while there was a real voice actress providing the foundation for her voice, the actual lyrics sung don't pass through any human mouth. The persona of Hatsune Miku also seems to have evolved a little more organically: the style and personalit…

Cope's earlier work with EMI is also pretty awesome; the idea of using as a training set a composer's body of work in order to produce new music in that same style is very cool.

http://artsites.ucsc.edu/faculty/cope/mp3page.htm

Re: Japan's Latest Rock Star Is A 3D Hologram - Draws Huge Crowds

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Post by ENOTTY »

Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but I looked into this when Hatsune Miko made the rounds on reddit a month or so ago.

I think the technology used is done by a company called Musion. http://www.musion.co.uk/

And it's based on an old visual trick called Pepper's ghost http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pepper%27s_ghost

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Post by jrockway »

daten wrote: post #26

I previously heard of Hatsune Miku because she did a cover of "Still Alive" from the computer game "Portal". http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_12b6Om758Q

Wow, nice. I will never complain about the audience singing along at Jonathan Coulton concerts again.

Re: Japan's Latest Rock Star Is A 3D Hologram - Draws Huge Crowds

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Post by cma »

tocomment wrote: post #10

We can make computer controlled, real-time holographic displays now? That seems like bigger news than a rockstar. Isn't that the holy grail of 3D displays?

There is a brute force approach.

Recent radiohead concerts had crude voxel displays based on towers of LEDs; you could probably scale it down to a character like this.

http://cache.gizmodo.com/assets/resources/2008/05/radiohead....

NiN did some similar stuff, but fewer layers: http://florago.net/notes/?p=41

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Post by chipsy »

ghshephard wrote: post #59
mrcharles wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But only because by his point of view, the present is effectively the future he looked forward to. I've always felt it's both an interesting and bold position for a writer of sci-fi to take.

Does this mean that sometime soon, Gibson will be writing historical fiction?

In one sense, he already has.

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Post by joelmichael »

Here are some famous Miku Hatsune videos.

Po pi po (the vegetable juice one): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0-2lzA7_Cg

"Yukkuri shiteitte ne", which means "take it easy", a Japanese meme/philosophy based on the "yukkuris": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cHsNnDfmDs

Disappearance of Miku Hatsune, about someone deleting the vocaloid program from their computer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lN7mR_ECQjo

It's worth noting that all of these videos and songs are completely fan-made. There is no official representative of Miku Hatsune; that's sort of the point. You can make her sing anything you want. She's more of a platform than a star.

There are several other vocaloid singers besides Miku. The whole thing is very popular on the Japanese video site Nico Nico Douga.

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Post by electromagnetic »

runjake wrote: post #44

This disturbs me beyond words. It seems like a real loss for humanity and a real gain for special interests (although it can be argued that humans can be manipulated as easily as this hologram for such purposes). In any case, this isn't part of any future I'll be embracing.

So a 'performer' that doesn't write their own songs, sing their own songs or even do their own choreography isn't already a real loss for humanity?

We elevate talentless, brainless schmucks to the pinnacle of our culture apparently just to watch them fall from grace. How is going one step further to an artificial performer less human? At least no one is hurt when they go on a crack/booze/heroin/etc binge. And at least I won't have to hear of some dumb bitch shaving her head and nigh-on abusing her kids on a daily basis.

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Post by rsaarelm »

runjake wrote: post #44

This disturbs me beyond words. It seems like a real loss for humanity and a real gain for special interests (although it can be argued that humans can be manipulated as easily as this hologram for such purposes). In any case, this isn't part of any future I'll be embracing.

This disturbs me beyond words.

Popular music hasn't been doing too well on the all-important "making grown-ups uncomfortable" front recently. Great to see it catching up a bit.

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