seems fair, if you're going to make your money from user created content
Article 13 is almost finished and will change the internet as we know it
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Re: Article 13 is almost finished and will change the internet as we know it
#12I like this new law. My rights are abused every hour and corporations hide behind the safe harbour. It is a really good thing. Keep up EU
Re: Article 13 is almost finished and will change the internet as we know it
#13I'm worried about influencing outcomes in the EU due to language barriers, especially on boring and "unsexy" issues like Internet regulation. It'd be important for the EU to be able to vote for representatives regardless of your primary jurisdiction.
Even if I manage to convince most of the representatives from my region, they will be outvoted by the French who had a big hand in passing the proposal forward the last time... It's like they reside in a completely different universe, with no hope of meaningful communication.
Edit: adding a link to this false-positive emulator script[0] as an example of how stupid the proposal is.
[0]: https://twitter.com/AlecMuffett/status/1015594170424193024
Re: Article 13 is almost finished and will change the internet as we know it
#14Bloody hell that's rather terrifying. After GDPR I was thinking Europe would be the bastion of the internet, now it looks like it's time to decentralise the internet completely. Which is going to surely have it's own issues I'm sure.
Therein lies the problem of regulating something like the internet. It’s impossible for regulating bodies to find the perfect balance and then just stop.
Re: Article 13 is almost finished and will change the internet as we know it
#15I am curious about other interpretations of the impact this law will have. Would it encourage the development of more peer-to-peer sharing networks, which lack a central space to upload? I wish we had the kind of concerted effort that the copyright lobby is able to launch, but focused on issues that reduce the net benefit of these platform more than copyright infringement: hate speech or intentional misinformation.
Shifting legal risks from you to your users doesn't seem like a good strategy for growing your product.
Maybe that is the point. We need services not products, and maybe limiting the viability of traditional centralised (risk, data, prestation) products could allow a new category of distributed (risk, data,...) services to fill in the need.
Re: Article 13 is almost finished and will change the internet as we know it
#16This wil change nothing that is not already in effect for most sites. Try to upload a movie to Youtube, it will be removed. But only when the owner/author complains or some automatic filter is triggered.
There is also too much content to check and enforce it all.
Re: Article 13 is almost finished and will change the internet as we know it
#17I like this new law. My rights are abused every hour and corporations hide behind the safe harbour. It is a really good thing. Keep up EU
Can you be more specific? Which rights?
Re: Article 13 is almost finished and will change the internet as we know it
#18So usenet is dead, right? 90%, usenet ISPs are a download server pretenting to be a mail server so they can claim safe harbour. If they are responsible for auditing their content, presumably this isn't viable anymore...
I am so tired of this abuse ... finally there is light
Re: Article 13 is almost finished and will change the internet as we know it
#19The GDPR has already resulted in quite a few websites simply refusing to serve the EU. Will this clinch it? Will the EU be cut off form the internet due to over-regulation that no one wants to put themselves at risk over?
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Re: Article 13 is almost finished and will change the internet as we know it
#20The GDPR has already resulted in quite a few websites simply refusing to serve the EU. Will this clinch it? Will the EU be cut off form the internet due to over-regulation that no one wants to put themselves at risk over?
I've so far only noticed the blocking on (tabloid) US news sites which when visited with a VPN are full of trackers and overflowing with ads. It didn't feel like a loss to me but would be curious to know if there are services which people feel they really needed/wanted but now can't access w/out VPN?