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Re: Mozilla Announces Deal to Bring Firefox Reality to HTC VIVE Devices

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Post by wpietri » Fri, Jan 11, 2019, 1:14 AM UTC

andybak wrote: post #60

wpietri wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sorry if I wasn't clear, but the theory that "VR is an important new medium" is exactly what I wanted empirical data to test. I was not asking about potential; I was asking about current sustained use.

Yeah. I was trying in a roundabout way to say "Current usage is probably low but this is why I think it's still an important strategic move". It's definitely about having faith in VR as a medium rather than "oh wow. Look how successful VR is already!" - because it isn't.

Thanks, but when I said I was trying to forestall the inevitable comment about potential, it was exactly that sort of faith-based reply I was hoping to avoid.

Re: Mozilla Announces Deal to Bring Firefox Reality to HTC VIVE Devices

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Post by andybak » Fri, Jan 11, 2019, 12:53 PM UTC

wpietri wrote: post #61

andybak wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah. I was trying in a roundabout way to say "Current usage is probably low but this is why I think it's still an important strategic move". It's definitely about having faith in VR as a medium rather than "oh wow. Look how successful VR is already!" - because it isn't.

Thanks, but when I said I was trying to forestall the inevitable comment about potential, it was exactly that sort of faith-based reply I was hoping to avoid.

I'm finding it hard to imagine what kind of evidence would be of use in a scenario like this. Some kind of Gartner hand-wavey focus-group thing?

Re: Mozilla Announces Deal to Bring Firefox Reality to HTC VIVE Devices

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Post by wpietri » Fri, Jan 11, 2019, 11:22 PM UTC

andybak wrote: post #62

wpietri wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks, but when I said I was trying to forestall the inevitable comment about potential, it was exactly that sort of faith-based reply I was hoping to avoid.

I'm finding it hard to imagine what kind of evidence would be of use in a scenario like this. Some kind of Gartner hand-wavey focus-group thing?

You don't have to imagine. I gave a clear example: DAU statistics for a VR browser. Or you could look at basically any successful technology, look at it on the way up, and ask what the early signs were that it was seeing significant use beyond novelty purchase. (That is in Moore's model getting out of the "innovator/techie" market segment and into pragmatic use.)

For literally my entire adult life people have been talking about VR as the coming big thing. I'm 100% over hearing about that, especially in response to very specific questions about actual use.