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Is this really that different from Gorillaz? They are also cartoon personas that perform music. If it gets to the point where an artificial intelligence composes and performs, then we will be in Gibson's Sprawl.

Slightly different. Gorillaz band members are usually voiced by one real artist (although this artist can change from album to album), whereas Hatsune Miku is one step removed - while there was a real voice actress providing the foundation for her voice, the actual lyrics sung don't pass through any human mouth. The persona of Hatsune Miku also seems to have evolved a little more organically: the style and personalit…

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Re: Japan's Latest Rock Star Is A 3D Hologram - Draws Huge Crowds

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post #12
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Is this really that different from Gorillaz? They are also cartoon personas that perform music. If it gets to the point where an artificial intelligence composes and performs, then we will be in Gibson's Sprawl.

Slightly different. Gorillaz band members are usually voiced by one real artist (although this artist can change from album to album), whereas Hatsune Miku is one step removed - while there was a real voice actress providing the foundation for her voice, the actual lyrics sung don't pass through any human mouth. The persona of Hatsune Miku also seems to have evolved a little more organically: the style and personalit…

The persona of Hatsune Miku also seems to have evolved a little more organically: the style and personalities of Gorillaz are basically driven by Damon Albarn and Jamie Hewlett; Hatsune Miku started out as an image on a software box

I want to see the crossover!

EDIT: Really, I want to see her animated with the keyframes by Hewlett.

Re: Japan's Latest Rock Star Is A 3D Hologram - Draws Huge Crowds

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Wow! This reminds me of the book Idoru by Willam Gibson. Idoru on Wikipedia: "In the post Tokyo/San Francisco earthquake world of the early 21st century, Colin Laney is referred to agents of the aging mega-rock star Rez (of the musical group Lo/Rez, and seemingly very much styled after former The Smiths frontman, Morrissey) for a job using his peculiar talent of sifting through vast amounts of mundane data to find "n…

This reminds me of a short cyberpunk story. I can't remember the name/author, but it was about a world where the next level of entertainment was essentially generated from a brainmap of the "artist." There was a girl who was disabled/disfigured/diseased, and she ended up becoming the biggest and most popular artist ever due to the raw emotions she was conveying. At the end she transfers her consciousness "to the clou…

Also Gibson http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Winter_Market

Re: Japan's Latest Rock Star Is A 3D Hologram - Draws Huge Crowds

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This reminds me of a short cyberpunk story. I can't remember the name/author, but it was about a world where the next level of entertainment was essentially generated from a brainmap of the "artist." There was a girl who was disabled/disfigured/diseased, and she ended up becoming the biggest and most popular artist ever due to the raw emotions she was conveying. At the end she transfers her consciousness "to the clou…

Also Gibson http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Winter_Market

Bingo, thanks.

Re: Japan's Latest Rock Star Is A 3D Hologram - Draws Huge Crowds

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Wow! This reminds me of the book Idoru by Willam Gibson. Idoru on Wikipedia: "In the post Tokyo/San Francisco earthquake world of the early 21st century, Colin Laney is referred to agents of the aging mega-rock star Rez (of the musical group Lo/Rez, and seemingly very much styled after former The Smiths frontman, Morrissey) for a job using his peculiar talent of sifting through vast amounts of mundane data to find "n…

Also a significant discussion of this phenomenon in PK Dick's VALIS trilogy

VALIS was a trilogy? What were the other two books (aside from the obvious VALIS)?

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So do they record and then playback, or is it voiced fully by computers?

Fully voiced by the computer. Think of a midi keyboard that also has a 'syllable' component for each note: So for example you make her sing the syllable 'Ka' in middle C. There are also a dozen or so other knobs that control how it is sung at that particular point in time.

So the singing is synthesized, but the band is real?

Backwards world :)

Re: Japan's Latest Rock Star Is A 3D Hologram - Draws Huge Crowds

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Wow! This reminds me of the book Idoru by Willam Gibson. Idoru on Wikipedia: "In the post Tokyo/San Francisco earthquake world of the early 21st century, Colin Laney is referred to agents of the aging mega-rock star Rez (of the musical group Lo/Rez, and seemingly very much styled after former The Smiths frontman, Morrissey) for a job using his peculiar talent of sifting through vast amounts of mundane data to find "n…

This reminds me of a short cyberpunk story. I can't remember the name/author, but it was about a world where the next level of entertainment was essentially generated from a brainmap of the "artist." There was a girl who was disabled/disfigured/diseased, and she ended up becoming the biggest and most popular artist ever due to the raw emotions she was conveying. At the end she transfers her consciousness "to the clou…

This sounds like a really interesting story. Thanks for the tip.

Re: Japan's Latest Rock Star Is A 3D Hologram - Draws Huge Crowds

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Also a significant discussion of this phenomenon in PK Dick's VALIS trilogy

VALIS was a trilogy? What were the other two books (aside from the obvious VALIS)?

Divine Invasion, VALIS, and The Transmigration of Timothy Archer (perhaps not in that order).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VALIS_trilogy

Re: Japan's Latest Rock Star Is A 3D Hologram - Draws Huge Crowds

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These days, he focuses on writing the present

But only because by his point of view, the present is effectively the future he looked forward to. I've always felt it's both an interesting and bold position for a writer of sci-fi to take.

Does this mean that sometime soon, Gibson will be writing historical fiction?
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