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So Long, Macbook. Hello Again, Linux

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Re: So Long, Macbook. Hello Again, Linux

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Post by elsonrodriguez »

naibafo wrote: post #85

There are different issues with OSX though, that colleagues of mine had, that never occur with Linux. E.g. the chore of somehow managing different software versions such as the outdated default one and a second one installed with homebrew. Almost all my colleagues struggled with setting up python 2 und 3 correctly at some point, whereas this just worked for me on Linux. Some struggled with font rendering between a 10…

This is a pain point. I use pyenv+pyenv-virtualenv+pyenv-implicit to keep me sane on MacOS (and everywhere else honestly, system python is for the system.)

https://github.com/pyenv/pyenv

Re: So Long, Macbook. Hello Again, Linux

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Post by Waterluvian »

InitialLastName wrote: post #149
Waterluvian wrote: post #129

Hooking up three monitors, 2 of which are 4k onto Ubuntu is the most frustrating thing I've done with that OS. It just works on OSX though. Rough spots is a good way to describe it. Overall it works... But not without effort and competence.

That doesn't "Just work" on Windows 7 or 10, though, so not sure it's a failure on the part of Linux as much as a success on the part of macOS.

I can boot my system into windows 10 right now and it all just works.

Re: So Long, Macbook. Hello Again, Linux

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Post by babyslothzoo »

This type of report, and the comments here echoing it, should worry Apple.

Years of bad decisions and neglect for the Mac have added up. The bad keyboards, touch bars, unnecessary port removals, etc, it feels like the company forgot who the "Pro" Mac line is made for. I hope they course correct but fear they won't.

Re: So Long, Macbook. Hello Again, Linux

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Post by Waterluvian »

jasondclinton wrote: post #188
Waterluvian wrote: post #129

Hooking up three monitors, 2 of which are 4k onto Ubuntu is the most frustrating thing I've done with that OS. It just works on OSX though. Rough spots is a good way to describe it. Overall it works... But not without effort and competence.

It sounds like you hit the point in Linux where this is painful: mixed DPI displays with mixed display scaling. Wayland fixes that. And soon, we'll finally have fractional scaling, too. GNOME is close to delivering that. So, it's getting better.

That's the best thing I've heard all week. Thank you!

Re: So Long, Macbook. Hello Again, Linux

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Post by dpark »

systemtest wrote: post #212
cheald wrote: post #172

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The first two issues both sound like you have misconfigured DNS and the first resolver in your list is invalid (and has to time out). The same misconfiguration under OSX would be likely to create the same issues.

Thank you for solving the first issue! I switched DNS from automatic to manual. Now I do have to adjust this every time I switch networks so perhaps I should write a script that does this automatically.

Why are you manually configuring DNS? If you need it to switch between different networks, it sounds like you should let DHCP do its job instead of overriding it.

Re: So Long, Macbook. Hello Again, Linux

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Post by bwidlar »

Old macos user too. Using Arch Linux since some months ago.

This is my happy world now:

   xcape -e "Shift_L=parenleft;Shift_R=parenright"
   sxhkd &
   unclutter &
   feh --auto-rotate --bg-fill --randomize ~/pics/wallpapers &

   jack_control start
   jack_control dps nperiods 3
   jack_control dps period 2048

   cd ~/prog/bar/
   ./bar | ./lemonbar -B#080808 -F#333333 -f "luculent" -b &
   cd

   exec bspwm
I am going to stay here for very long, the rolling release concept is a gift from gods.

Re: So Long, Macbook. Hello Again, Linux

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Post by ianhowson »

willtim wrote: post #203
Tehchops wrote: post #163

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> One of the big features Macs have for me is that I can call customer service any time of day and they can work through any serious issue I have with my Mac This is something else that often gets left out in these discussions. For better or worse, Apple offers an ecosystem/platform, and the support to go along with it. Suppose you do make a Linux laptop work for your daily driver. You're still left out in the cold i…

If you buy a business-class machine like a ThinkPad, you will get a modular and repairable machine with typically 3 years on-site support as standard, in most countries. This is not true with Apple. Apple machines are essentially unrepairable in the field and even with the expensive AppleCare option, you will likely lose possession of your machine for a significant amount of time.

With Apple, you can take it to any store and they'll diagnose it immediately. With business support (which isn't even expensive for individuals; it was $500/year when I had it) they'll give you a loaner on the spot.

If you've got backups, your downtime for a dead machine maybe a few hours.

Re: So Long, Macbook. Hello Again, Linux

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Post by zanny »

war1025 wrote: post #176
teddyc wrote: post #36

I resurrected a little NUC computer from a former employee. It has 16GB RAM and a 256GB SSD drive. It runs Ubuntu 18.10 fine. The display port runs my 4k monitor @ 60Hz. I bought a USB bluetooth dongle and the smallest microphone I could find on the internet so I can use my old bluetooth mouse and do audio conference calls. I am really loving it for Docker based development b/c it feels like it runs a lot faster. I a…

How do you like the NUC? I have been toying with the idea of buying a mini computer like that. I don't really want a full-size desktop tower, but I also don't really want to go the route of a laptop in a docking station.

I have a PC business on the side and I love selling people NUCs. Few or no moving parts to break, you can often mount them on the backs of monitors, performance has been good enough for ~4 years for 99% of desktop tasks. If not for the inexplicable price premium they'd be perfect for anyone except if you need a lot of storage, dedicated video, or expansion slots.

Re: So Long, Macbook. Hello Again, Linux

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Post by thomastjeffery »

jaabe wrote: post #239

I think I feel the same disenchantment from Apple that the author does, and it really scares me. Because the responses to this piece are basically 220 reasons of why I’ll probably never switch. Don’t get me wrong, I want to like Linux, I just don’t want to spend any time (as in any time) on configurations. I want to plug right into my 4K monitor and have things just work. I want a good trackpad, and so on.

In my experience, the only frustration left is display scaling. Everything else "just works", while leaving configuration as an option for those who want it.

Unfortunately, display scaling is just impossible with Xorg, and Wayland is still not really usable.

Re: So Long, Macbook. Hello Again, Linux

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Post by dpark »

kurtisc wrote: post #240
jwr wrote: post #48

I so wish the Linux community would get its act together and implement a working usable clipboard. It's the one thing I miss the most whenever I switch from Mac OS to Linux. On a Mac, you can cut/copy/paste using predictable keystrokes in any application, anywhere. And there is a single clipboard. On Linux, you have to deal with a multitude of behaviors (middle mouse button, Ctrl-C, others, and does it paste where th…

>I so wish the Linux community would get its act together That's needlessly rude.

No it's not. From his standpoint, the clipboard situation is broken. It's reasonable to state his viewpoint. Especially given that he's addressing a large community and not a small set of individuals, it's borderline absurd that someone would take personal offense at his statement.

It's unreasonable to expect that criticisms be phrased politically to avoid stepping on oversensitive toes.

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