No carrier installs vanilla copies of OSes on their phones, every phone literally has pre-installed apps. Just because this is facebook it's getting headlines.
I mean this is the same way with computers too. Why is this even news?
Samsung Phone Users Perturbed to Find They Can't Delete Facebook
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#452I also noticed when troubleshooting a VPN and doing some tcpdumps that my Xperia Z5C was making pretty frequent DNS lookups of mqtt-mini.facebook.com . From what I could find on Google search my best guess was that this endpoint is used by facebook messenger, but I don't have that installed. This is despite the fact that I've disabled the facebook app.
I took a second look while writing this comment and there's an addtional "Facebook services" app, which I've just gone ahead and disabled. Maybe that will stop the requests.
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#453This story (and from different outlets) is now all over the press, which is great. Can I add another qualm in a similar vein? It involves Samsung TV's. I'm convinced Samsung is increasingly mean. I only use streaming services (Netflix, et. al.), and for the past year I've been pretty pleased with "Smart TV" functionality, which makes life easy. That is, until the following happened. After a recent update, the TV: * N…
Never, ever give your TV access to the Internet.
The OS that runs on those things is such unmitigated shit, whether it's LG, Samsung, Vizio, anything. Just use it as a dumb display.
At least if I have an xbox one driving it I can be reasonably confident that microsoft has a highly vested interest in staying up to date on security patches. And whatever data collection I've opted into/out of has been vetted by people in Redmond. Use a home theatre PC to drive all other needs.
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#454Earlier quoted context omitted.
As long as they force their shitty software down people's throats every day (literally what the article is about), people will keep complaining about them. Just like everyone who's forced to use Comcast complains. In fact it's mainly abusive monopolies that tend to receive this nonstop criticism. Ordinary crappy companies go out of business because people can switch to their alternatives, then no one complains about…
> force their shitty software down people's throats every day Did Facebook force OEMs to include their software on their devices? Isn't it more likely that OEMs are getting paid for the placement and the blame for its inclusion lies with OEMs?
Ok, fair enough. The article isn't about Facebook forcing their shitty software down our throats (which they still do, via notification and email spam).
It's about Facebook paying OEMs to force its shitty software down our throats.
IMO not really a meaningful distinction in this context though.
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#455Earlier quoted context omitted.
That isn't really accurate, you're just defining "crapware" is such a way so that Google's apps don't qualify. That's a double standard. Google Drive, Gmail, Google Photos, Play Music, Play Movies, Play Games, Play Books, Duo, Google+, and YouTube could all be called as crapware since they aren't required for core phone functions (and upsell for-profit services). I guess it is somewhat a discussion what we mean by "c…
I mean... then Apple bundles crapware too. iTunes Store, Pages, Weather, Find Friends, and a bunch of other stuff that I put in a folder inside a folder and promptly forgot about when I got my first iPhone.
Those are all deleteable since iOS 11
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#456It's not just FB, my Samsung S9 came preloaded with 'undeletable' Microsoft apps too. But this is nothing new, Samsung phones have came preloaded with bloat since forever. When buying a new phone I always spend some time deleting all Samsung, Microsoft, Facebook and carrier related apps. Yes, you can delete 'undeletable' apps through ADB, without rooting the device. pm uninstall -k --user 0
God bless you for this
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Please don't stop surfing the web, that is insane. You are staying locked in your news aggregator sites like someone with agoraphobia, that is even more unhealthy than whatever beasties you think are out there waiting for you.
The certainty with which you make this statement seems undeserved. There are situations when extreme deviations from cultural norms is perfectly healthy. Like abstaining from tobacco in the 1950s or something to that effect. The jury's still out on the health effects of our digital culture. It's too strange and too young to really get clean long-term results on it. But I would be utterly floored if it was having no s…
For me at least the digital life have a bad effect. But I'm sure that's related to my specific personality.
I've written about it here before, but leaving the digital life completely for periods is easily the most healthiest things I've done.
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Did get another SIM or move the one from your phone into the Atom?
I swap my SIM when I want to use it, but it would be less hassle to get a separate one.
But then, how do people contact you? Anything tied to your phone number wouldn't work. Perhaps only Telegram, Skype, Messenger work cross device. Phone calls and WhatsApp don't.
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I swap my SIM when I want to use it, but it would be less hassle to get a separate one.
But then, how do people contact you? Anything tied to your phone number wouldn't work. Perhaps only Telegram, Skype, Messenger work cross device. Phone calls and WhatsApp don't.
For phone calls, good old call redirect is still a thing :P
No idea about whatsapp though.