If we are talking a "virtual" rock star, I prefer a hybrid approach, like sushi k in snowcrash. A real, single musician writing and performing, but using different mediums - the metaverse in snowcrash, or maybe even holograms in real life.
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#12Is this really that different from Gorillaz? They are also cartoon personas that perform music. If it gets to the point where an artificial intelligence composes and performs, then we will be in Gibson's Sprawl.
Slightly different. Gorillaz band members are usually voiced by one real artist (although this artist can change from album to album), whereas Hatsune Miku is one step removed - while there was a real voice actress providing the foundation for her voice, the actual lyrics sung don't pass through any human mouth.
The persona of Hatsune Miku also seems to have evolved a little more organically: the style and personalities of Gorillaz are basically driven by Damon Albarn and Jamie Hewlett; Hatsune Miku started out as an image on a software box, but got adopted by the internet community who produce videos based on her, with quite diverse personality and style.
As for artificial intelligence composition, Emily Howell is probably the closest we've got at the moment: http://arstechnica.com/science/news/2009/09/virtual-composer...
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#13Hmm, interesting. Can't wait for the first time they have to sue a real flesh and blood human being over the copyrights to a song by a hologram.
Still, the future its going to be awesome.
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#14Life imitates anime - anyone else get a Macross Plus flashback about the concept?
Sharon Apple will happen:
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#15We can make computer controlled, real-time holographic displays now? That seems like bigger news than a rockstar. Isn't that the holy grail of 3D displays?
It's still just a projection onto some sort of medium.
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#16Is this really that different from Gorillaz? They are also cartoon personas that perform music. If it gets to the point where an artificial intelligence composes and performs, then we will be in Gibson's Sprawl.
Slightly different. Gorillaz band members are usually voiced by one real artist (although this artist can change from album to album), whereas Hatsune Miku is one step removed - while there was a real voice actress providing the foundation for her voice, the actual lyrics sung don't pass through any human mouth. The persona of Hatsune Miku also seems to have evolved a little more organically: the style and personalit…
So do they record and then playback, or is it voiced fully by computers?
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#17Wow! This reminds me of the book Idoru by Willam Gibson. Idoru on Wikipedia: "In the post Tokyo/San Francisco earthquake world of the early 21st century, Colin Laney is referred to agents of the aging mega-rock star Rez (of the musical group Lo/Rez, and seemingly very much styled after former The Smiths frontman, Morrissey) for a job using his peculiar talent of sifting through vast amounts of mundane data to find "n…
Also a significant discussion of this phenomenon in PK Dick's VALIS trilogy
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#18I'm reminded of NG-Resonance[1] from Deus Ex 2. Of course, in that case, it was based on a real person.
[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deus_Ex:_Invisible_War_characte...
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#19Wow! Japan never ceases to amaze me.
Would be interesting if the 3d hologram can be controlled by a human in real time.
Although that would probably suck for the self-esteem "I'm not good enough, they put a fake anime hologram in my place".
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#20Earlier quoted context omitted.
Slightly different. Gorillaz band members are usually voiced by one real artist (although this artist can change from album to album), whereas Hatsune Miku is one step removed - while there was a real voice actress providing the foundation for her voice, the actual lyrics sung don't pass through any human mouth. The persona of Hatsune Miku also seems to have evolved a little more organically: the style and personalit…
So do they record and then playback, or is it voiced fully by computers?
Fully voiced by the computer.
Think of a midi keyboard that also has a 'syllable' component for each note: So for example you make her sing the syllable 'Ka' in middle C.
There are also a dozen or so other knobs that control how it is sung at that particular point in time.