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Windows Phones didn't had crap on them either. This is strictly a Android issue.
Windows 10 comes with crap even in Pro version these days (Candy Crush etc.), so it was just because nobody cared enough to create that crap for Windows Phone.
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Many Android phones don't have "crap" installed on them. This is a phone manufacturer issue and not an Android phone.
It's both. Why does Android have undeletable apps anyway?
It has apps that cannot be installed from the phone UI. Which kinda makes sense, since you don't want people randomly uninstalling, say, the app store, and then complaining that their phone is bricked. OTOH, someone who knows how to do this via adb can be presumed to know what they're doing.
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That isn't really accurate, you're just defining "crapware" is such a way so that Google's apps don't qualify. That's a double standard. Google Drive, Gmail, Google Photos, Play Music, Play Movies, Play Games, Play Books, Duo, Google+, and YouTube could all be called as crapware since they aren't required for core phone functions (and upsell for-profit services). I guess it is somewhat a discussion what we mean by "c…
> That isn't really accurate, you're just defining "crapware" is such a way so that Google's apps don't qualify. That's a double standard. I need to clarify - I'm not an Apple hater, I own an iPhone, 2 iPads, 2 Macbook Pros and a Mac Mini at the time of this comment. But, this same logic can be applied to Apple as well. For example, I don't use Apple's photos app at all. And I can't delete it. There is absolutely no…
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Google recognizes this issue, which is part of the drive behind bringing Android One to the high-end phone market. This is a branding designation that Google sells to OEMs that requires them to drop almost all bloatware: > Android One is a series of smartphones that run the unmodified Android operating system. It is a hardware and software technical standard created by Google intended to provide a consistent user exp…
> Google recognizes this issue, which is part of the drive behind bringing Android One to the high-end phone market. Sorry, did you mean "low-end" here? Because the Pixel serves the high-end market quite well, I think.
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https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/jellyphone/atom-world-s...
Wow, that's really small. Actually it's what phones used to be before 2007.
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/jellyphone/jelly-the-sm...
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Google recognizes this issue, which is part of the drive behind bringing Android One to the high-end phone market. This is a branding designation that Google sells to OEMs that requires them to drop almost all bloatware: > Android One is a series of smartphones that run the unmodified Android operating system. It is a hardware and software technical standard created by Google intended to provide a consistent user exp…
Almost all non-Google* bloatware. I'm using an Android One phone as well, but there's still a dozen or so of Google's apps that I would like to be able to remove. I chose less bloatware as well, but let's not pretend that there's no bloatware in Android One.
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...except for Apple.
Apple is doing a lot better nowadays, but it's still not perfect though, for example: you can't delete iTunes on MacOS.
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I know I can clean up crapware, via adb, but on principle vote with my wallet. It's not acceptable to charge me something that rounds to a thousand euros and then fleece me for a few extra bucks. Right now, I restrict my selection to Android One [1] phones. The current one is a Nokia 8 Sirocco. [1] https://www.android.com/one/
I've had similar feelings... having finally ditched my Huawei Nexus 6P, which I came to loathe. This was after years of buying Google developer devices (going back to the G1). The 6P was the last straw, as I came to resent spending hundreds on something with a soldered-in battery that could be (and turned out to be) unusable after 24 months. The battery was a wreck. I ended up getting an unlocked new LG V20 from eBay…
Anyone had similar issue?
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