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Re: Amazon DocumentDB, with MongoDB compatibility

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Azure has been running a Mongo-compliant DB under their Cosmos umbrella for quite a while. It's not clear to me that either Azure or AWS are actually running Mongo software under the hood or rather a proprietary DB that uses the Mongo wire protocol. https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/cosmos-db/mongodb-int...

Doesn’t Azure also have a not-Mongo service also called DocumentDB? Is this the same code? These cloud services are confusing enough when they don’t borrow each other’s names.

The Azure service formerly known as DocumentDB is now called Cosmos DB. Part of that switch was introducing multiple APIs, including a MongoDB API: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/cosmos-db/mongodb-int...

Re: Amazon DocumentDB, with MongoDB compatibility

#92
post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Azure has been running a Mongo-compliant DB under their Cosmos umbrella for quite a while. It's not clear to me that either Azure or AWS are actually running Mongo software under the hood or rather a proprietary DB that uses the Mongo wire protocol. https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/cosmos-db/mongodb-int...

Doesn’t Azure also have a not-Mongo service also called DocumentDB? Is this the same code? These cloud services are confusing enough when they don’t borrow each other’s names.

That’s now Azure CosmosDB because it offers several different APIs for your data.

Re: Amazon DocumentDB, with MongoDB compatibility

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post #74

I'm pretty sure this is going to kill Mongo as a company dead. With this in existence there's literally no reason to use Atlas. If they wanted to twist the knife they should get to work implementing a pass through migration option.

Have you heard of Amazon Elasticsearch Service, launched in 2015? Elastic is doing fine.

Re: Amazon DocumentDB, with MongoDB compatibility

#94
So now AWS DocumentDB, Azure CosmosDB, and even Apple's FoundationDB have a MongoDB compatible API. I expect other multimodal databases to offer the same soon enough.

Strange turn of events for MongoDB but I guess that's what happens when the interface is open and anyone can build a backend to it, especially a relatively simple document-store.

Re: Amazon DocumentDB, with MongoDB compatibility

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We were paying $5k a month for Atlas. So while it's not 'cheap' for a hosted solution it's cheaper. And the autoscale and RR is better DR is super configurable. And then there is this line. 'Together with optimizations like advanced query processing, connection pooling, and optimized recovery and rebuild, Amazon DocumentDB achieves twice the throughput of currently available MongoDB managed services.`

Can you please elaborate? This was launched today, you had access to the new feature in advance?

Not OP, but that wouldn’t necessarily be a surprise. As customers make product requests to AWS they can be tapped to test upcoming launches - anything from pre-release testing to very early alphas.

Re: Amazon DocumentDB, with MongoDB compatibility

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My bet is that it is built on top of Aurora PostgreSQL. By looking at the "Limits" section ( https://docs.aws.amazon.com/documentdb/latest/developerguide... ), identifiers are limited to 63 characters and the same characters that PostgreSQL limits identifiers to; and a collection size limit of 32TB, coincidentally maximum PostgreSQL table size. Edit: I can confirm: does not allow the UTF-8 null character in strings:…

Corollary: PostgreSQL is also web-scale! ;P

Re: Amazon DocumentDB, with MongoDB compatibility

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How the heck was this approved by legal? AWS is linking to MongoDB's own documentation. https://docs.aws.amazon.com/documentdb/latest/developerguide... Go to any operation, it links to docs.mongodb.com !

Is linking to documentation illegal?

The 'legal' department doesn't only vet things that are obviously illegal, they are there for other things too, like EULAs, contracts and intellectual property in general.

In any case, they are implementing the competitor's APIs and the documentation is already licensed as Creative Commons. Can't they at least host their own copy?

Re: Amazon DocumentDB, with MongoDB compatibility

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Is linking to documentation illegal?

The 'legal' department doesn't only vet things that are obviously illegal, they are there for other things too, like EULAs, contracts and intellectual property in general. In any case, they are implementing the competitor's APIs and the documentation is already licensed as Creative Commons. Can't they at least host their own copy?

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