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Penguin travels every year to visit man who rescued him (2016)

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Re: Penguin travels every year to visit man who rescued him (2016)

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Post by pweissbrod »

agumonkey wrote: post #67
AnIdiotOnTheNet wrote: post #60

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> perhaps dimmer versions than the ones we're familiar with No, I think that's our subconscious desire to believe we are separate from the world around us speaking. They may experience and express feelings differently than we do, but that doesn't mean that experience is less meaningful.

I use the video game analogy for this. animals may be 8 bits, we're 32 bits. Still whatever bits games are running on, they use the same basic formulas (in the metaphor, these are our senses, emotions and abstractions). It's indeed evident that we share a lot with animals. Even if they may not think as much, and can't communicate like us. I also believe that most important times in our human lives, are quite animal..…

I like this analogy.

To take it further I'm equally as fine with me eating an 8-bit animal as I am with a 64-bit being coming into my house and eating 32-bit me :)

Re: Penguin travels every year to visit man who rescued him (2016)

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Post by sls »

airstrike wrote: post #11

This is the most heartwarming thing I've read in a long time! It's like a real-life Pixar short. I know I will come back to this article many times in the future. Thank you very much for sharing. "Dindim" is a slang for money in Brazil, but in a very cute way. "Money" is "dinheiro" in Portuguese so Dindim is like saying the first part of the word twice.

reduplication[1], in case you find that sort of thing interesting. Almost exact reduplication, bar the ending - is ending in -in or -din allowed in Brazilian Portuguese?

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reduplication

Re: Penguin travels every year to visit man who rescued him (2016)

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Post by sudhirj »

anigbrowl wrote: post #29
sudhirj wrote: post #17

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Not a biologist, but I've always found my dog interesting if I step on him by mistake. He barks and snaps at my shoes, trying to attack them. Stops if I take them off, and it doesn't alter his relationship with me in any way. It's like the shoe on me is a distinct animal from the shoe off me, and neither of them is related to me in any way.

Which kind of dog? Mine are curious when I get new shoes or clothes but seem to appreciate that this related to my fur deficiency.

West Highland Terrier. And yeah, he's curious about clothes, but footwear stepping on him seems very different.

Re: Penguin travels every year to visit man who rescued him (2016)

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Post by mcqueenjordan »

vvanders wrote: post #23
gerbilly wrote: post #10

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> I've wondered, though. What constitutes a pet? We don't need categories to be so rigid. I have some squirrels in the yard who recognise me and follow me around until I feed them. I call them 'yard pets'. Sometimes they come into the house when they are too excited, but I've never had trouble escorting them out. I don't particularly like the idea of laws getting in the way of my relationship with animals, even if th…

To get a bit pedantic you're on the path to domesticating those squirrels, most wildlife professionals wouldn't consider them wild any more. My father worked for WI DNR for many years and it always irked him that people feeding the wildlife didn't think they were doing any harm when they were making the animals co-dependent on that food source.

> To get a bit pedantic you're on the path to domesticating those squirrels...

To be even more pedantic: No, they're not.

> Domestication should not be confused with taming. Taming is the conditioned behavioral modification of an animal to reduce its natural avoidance of humans, and to accept the presence of humans. Domestication is the permanent genetic modification of a bred lineage that leads to an inherited predisposition towards humans.

Re: Penguin travels every year to visit man who rescued him (2016)

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Post by louthy »

Memosyne wrote: post #50

When I was a child, a school teacher showed me this hoax video of flying penguins: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dfWzp7rYR4 . Unfortunately, for a brief period of my childhood, I was under the assumption that penguins could indeed fly. By the time I had uncovered my teacher's subterfuge, I had already made a fool of myself by publicly positing that such penguins existed. Admittedly, my teacher was only playing a p…

> but ever since that incident I have been distrustful of penguins

Shouldn't you be distrustful of school teachers?

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Post by beaconstudios »

justtopost wrote: post #37
anigbrowl wrote: post #27

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I find the people quickest to go on about anthropomorphism tend to have the least experience with animals. When you think about it.'s quite the intellectual conceit to assume you fully understand the decision-making of another creature and that it is entirely dependent on food. Reminds me of certain economic ideologues who insist everyone, whether they know it or not, is motivated by money and self-advancement.

So, taking a dig at capitolism and rational thinking in one swipe? This is a website devoted to exploiting technology for capitolism. Yc is literally an investor. But go on and tell us how not advancing ourselves benefits the world at large, Ill wait.

Anti capitalist sentiment is actually pretty common here, both this site and the tech industry are well populated with liberals and leftists alike.

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Post by WalterSear »

agumonkey wrote: post #68

We have to eat.. but if we hadn't I'd be happy never have to harm another living form. It's how nature is built .. but still.

I've been vegan 20 years. Big, socially-censured changes can seem daunting, but anyone who says you can't eat well, and easily, is fooling themselves.

You either live your values, or come to terms with being part of what you don't like about the world.

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Post by freedomben »

tzs wrote: post #8

> It's technically illegal to have a wild animal as a pet in Brazil, as officials want to ensure vulnerable creatures don't get separated from their families and that they can be reintroduced into the wild after injury. Same where I am. I've wondered, though. What constitutes a pet? For example, I give peanuts to the wild squirrels around my house. This is not illegal where I live. It is illegal, however, to keep a w…

I know you already know, but just posting in case it helps someone else. Be really careful about letting a squirrel get into a closed area with you, or even too close to your body. If they feel threatened (which they will once they realize they are trapped) they will f--k you up. This happened to an acquaintance of mine and he has permanent eye damage from it. They may not seem like it when they are gracefully and happily climbing trees and branches, but they are fast as hell with reflexes like lightning, and claws like knives.

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Post by uhtred »

agumonkey wrote: post #69
uhtred wrote: post #36

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How can you continue to eat other animals if you feel the way you do about other animals?

Our species manage to get away from running after food. Animals do, every life form takes from the environment. The issue is how easy it is to us to breed, slaughter, bag and cook living forms nowaday. But if you were 100000 years ago, you'd have no second thoughts about eating animals.

100000 years ago humans had significantly less empathy than we do now. And they didn't have a grocery store with more varieties of vegetables, whole grains, beans, lentils, fruits, seeds, nuts, tofu, tempeh, seitan, cashew cheese, veggie burgers, vegan sausages, vegan pizza, vegan chikn, plant based milks... than one could possibly imagine, a short drive or walk from their home.
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