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Re: Samsung Phone Users Perturbed to Find They Can't Delete Facebook

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I haven’t been following... is Android open source, or isn’t it?

Android is open source, but a lot of the functionality delivered by modern phones relies on the closed-source app suite provided by Google (namely Google Play Services).

Re: Samsung Phone Users Perturbed to Find They Can't Delete Facebook

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Well said. I like small and light phones, not iOS. I'm typing this on an Xperia X Compact (2016). Follow up models weight more and maybe the product line will be discontinued. Even the iPhone SE is dead.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/jellyphone/atom-world-s...

Wow, that's really small. Actually it's what phones used to be before 2007.

Re: Samsung Phone Users Perturbed to Find They Can't Delete Facebook

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I'm no Facebook fan, but doesn't it feel like there is a coordinated media effort to destroy Facebook? It's quite strange. Outside of WSJ, Google seems to get away with it almost the same things Facebook is doing. I'm not sure what to make of it.

Oh the tiresome conspiracy theory.

Right, editors from different media publications are "coordinating." They are actively strategizing and communicating with one another in order to "destroy" one of the most powerful companies in the world.

Because there's zero possibility that given involvement of FB in everything from violence in Myanmar, Philippines and Sri Lank to fake political ads in US elections, FB's further encroachment on our lives is an actual topical interest story? Yes "quite strange."

Re: Samsung Phone Users Perturbed to Find They Can't Delete Facebook

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FaceBook is scammy on many levels. Their ads business always reports very inflated numbers. We spend $1000/mnth on FB ads. They show millions of impressions and 20k link clicks. However only 2k visits are shown by both google analytics and Mixpanel on the actual website. It really seems like an empire that will crumble some day.

Maybe some of your users block Google Analytics/Mixpanel while not blocking Facebook ads. For example, because they are using the mobile app or because Facebook ads are harder to block...

Re: Samsung Phone Users Perturbed to Find They Can't Delete Facebook

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> It's not just FB, my Samsung S9 came preloaded with 'undeletable' Microsoft apps too. But this is nothing new, Samsung phones have came preloaded with bloat since forever. I'm old enough to remember when this was standard. Before smartphones almost all cellphones were bought through carriers and came pre-loaded with a bunch of carrier crapware (often unremovable). One of the best things about the first iPhone was t…

Android itself has undeletable Google apps.

You can install LineageOS if your phone supports it. No Google Apps unless you install them. Also no crap.

Re: Samsung Phone Users Perturbed to Find They Can't Delete Facebook

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https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/jellyphone/atom-world-s...

Wow, that's really small. Actually it's what phones used to be before 2007.

I got one off the kickstarter, and it's a neat little gadget. It hasn't fully replaced my main smartphone, but it's great for outdoors activities, or if I'm wearing an outfit without big pockets and don't want to carry a bag.

Re: Samsung Phone Users Perturbed to Find They Can't Delete Facebook

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I know I can clean up crapware, via adb, but on principle vote with my wallet. It's not acceptable to charge me something that rounds to a thousand euros and then fleece me for a few extra bucks. Right now, I restrict my selection to Android One [1] phones. The current one is a Nokia 8 Sirocco. [1] https://www.android.com/one/

I've had similar feelings... having finally ditched my Huawei Nexus 6P, which I came to loathe. This was after years of buying Google developer devices (going back to the G1). The 6P was the last straw, as I came to resent spending hundreds on something with a soldered-in battery that could be (and turned out to be) unusable after 24 months. The battery was a wreck. I ended up getting an unlocked new LG V20 from eBay…

I'm using the bundled install, micro I think. It's okay, it works just fine.

I always wondered what to replace my Nexus 5 with, thanx for the info.

Re: Samsung Phone Users Perturbed to Find They Can't Delete Facebook

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post #157

I haven’t been following... is Android open source, or isn’t it?

Android is open source, but a lot of the functionality delivered by modern phones relies on the closed-source app suite provided by Google (namely Google Play Services).

And closed-source hardware drivers.
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