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Re: Samsung Phone Users Perturbed to Find They Can't Delete Facebook

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Post by simulate »

AlexandrB wrote: post #116
LeonM wrote: post #20

It's not just FB, my Samsung S9 came preloaded with 'undeletable' Microsoft apps too. But this is nothing new, Samsung phones have came preloaded with bloat since forever. When buying a new phone I always spend some time deleting all Samsung, Microsoft, Facebook and carrier related apps. Yes, you can delete 'undeletable' apps through ADB, without rooting the device. pm uninstall -k --user 0

> It's not just FB, my Samsung S9 came preloaded with 'undeletable' Microsoft apps too. But this is nothing new, Samsung phones have came preloaded with bloat since forever. I'm old enough to remember when this was standard. Before smartphones almost all cellphones were bought through carriers and came pre-loaded with a bunch of carrier crapware (often unremovable). One of the best things about the first iPhone was t…

Like the iPhones, phones distributed by Google, starting with the Google Phone G1 in 2008, and continuing to the Nexus phones and today's current Pixel phones (Pixel 1, 2, and 3), have never had crapware.

Re: Samsung Phone Users Perturbed to Find They Can't Delete Facebook

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Post by drb91 »

tssva wrote: post #156
mariusmg wrote: post #144

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Windows Phones didn't had crap on them either. This is strictly a Android issue.

Many Android phones don't have "crap" installed on them. This is a phone manufacturer issue and not an Android phone.

Well those phones aren’t running ios or windows....

Re: Samsung Phone Users Perturbed to Find They Can't Delete Facebook

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Post by untog »

tssva wrote: post #156
mariusmg wrote: post #144

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Windows Phones didn't had crap on them either. This is strictly a Android issue.

Many Android phones don't have "crap" installed on them. This is a phone manufacturer issue and not an Android phone.

It's both. Why does Android have undeletable apps anyway?

Re: Samsung Phone Users Perturbed to Find They Can't Delete Facebook

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Post by siffland »

tssva wrote: post #156
mariusmg wrote: post #144

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Windows Phones didn't had crap on them either. This is strictly a Android issue.

Many Android phones don't have "crap" installed on them. This is a phone manufacturer issue and not an Android phone.

My LG has LG software preloaded and t-mobile software pre loaded. it just takes up space and would be fine, but it is annoying. One of the LG pieces of software (i thin it is a back up thing) does not work anymore, but still exists. An silly things like the t-mobile permanent unlock your phone app. My phone has been paid for for like a year and if i click the app and request a permanent, or temp unlock it says i am not eligible, but i cannot uninstall the app.

I have heard the argument about being able to hide the apps, but it is not the same. This is the first android phone i have had where i didnt root it and install a new android version. Just got tired of that (lack of security updates). So i am stuck with crapware.

Re: Samsung Phone Users Perturbed to Find They Can't Delete Facebook

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Post by naravara »

AlexandrB wrote: post #125
Retra wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>why annoy people who've already paid you with the crapware? Why make money once when you can make it twice? Where's the incentive for businesses to give you what you want, when you can instead just take what they offer?

> Where's the incentive for businesses to give you what you want, when you can instead just take what they offer? This is a symptom of short-term thinking in corporate leadership. Apple didn't become such a valuable brand by filling their products with third-party shit in exchange for a few bucks.

>Apple didn't become such a valuable brand by filling their products with third-party shit in exchange for a few bucks.

The same intransigence that serves them today also had them teetering on the brink of bankruptcy for the better part of a decade at one point.

Apple has that commitment to quality, but even aside from that commitment they also just have really good taste and its baked into their product design and company culture. As they say, money can't buy taste and there are no MBA programs that cultivate such sensibilities. It's a hard orientation to copy.

Re: Samsung Phone Users Perturbed to Find They Can't Delete Facebook

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Post by mtberatwork »

Eli_P wrote: post #99

If a giant like Facebook had bought Match Group and Tinder, would it be possible for it to manipulate dating and thus breeding people up to statistically significant scale? I feel it like being "@" in somebody's Dwarf Fortress. World's so narcissistic.

If they match too precisely though wouldn't they lose out on tons of recurring revenue?

Re: Samsung Phone Users Perturbed to Find They Can't Delete Facebook

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Post by partiallypro »

AlexandrB wrote: post #116
LeonM wrote: post #20

It's not just FB, my Samsung S9 came preloaded with 'undeletable' Microsoft apps too. But this is nothing new, Samsung phones have came preloaded with bloat since forever. When buying a new phone I always spend some time deleting all Samsung, Microsoft, Facebook and carrier related apps. Yes, you can delete 'undeletable' apps through ADB, without rooting the device. pm uninstall -k --user 0

> It's not just FB, my Samsung S9 came preloaded with 'undeletable' Microsoft apps too. But this is nothing new, Samsung phones have came preloaded with bloat since forever. I'm old enough to remember when this was standard. Before smartphones almost all cellphones were bought through carriers and came pre-loaded with a bunch of carrier crapware (often unremovable). One of the best things about the first iPhone was t…

Android itself has undeletable Google apps.

Re: Samsung Phone Users Perturbed to Find They Can't Delete Facebook

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Post by partiallypro »

I'm no Facebook fan, but doesn't it feel like there is a coordinated media effort to destroy Facebook? It's quite strange. Outside of WSJ, Google seems to get away with it almost the same things Facebook is doing. I'm not sure what to make of it.

Re: Samsung Phone Users Perturbed to Find They Can't Delete Facebook

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Post by stabbles »

SippinLean wrote: post #152
Yizahi wrote: post #21

Says the site with ~20-30 crapware JS trackers (12 blocked by uBlock, 23 by uMatrix). I'm not forgiving FB here, just pointing out that others are often similarly bad.

Hypocrisy doesn't invalidate the article's criticisms https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tu_quoque

As op admits

Re: Samsung Phone Users Perturbed to Find They Can't Delete Facebook

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Post by 52-6F-62 »

simulate wrote: post #161
AlexandrB wrote: post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It's not just FB, my Samsung S9 came preloaded with 'undeletable' Microsoft apps too. But this is nothing new, Samsung phones have came preloaded with bloat since forever. I'm old enough to remember when this was standard. Before smartphones almost all cellphones were bought through carriers and came pre-loaded with a bunch of carrier crapware (often unremovable). One of the best things about the first iPhone was t…

Like the iPhones, phones distributed by Google, starting with the Google Phone G1 in 2008, and continuing to the Nexus phones and today's current Pixel phones (Pixel 1, 2, and 3), have never had crapware.

I have (outside of my personal iPhone) an LG ThinQ 7 through work and I don't recall it coming loaded with a bunch of crapware, either. There were your standard apps plus "LG Switch" which is for file transfers and "LG Health" which is pretty self-explanatory. Beyond that there was NextRadio as the phone has an FM receiver. Plus the Google Play stuff.

Not too bad. Can't say anything about their other phones, though.

(Prior to this phone I had a Samsung S6 and that thing was nightmarish with all the bloatware)

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