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Re: Samsung Phone Users Perturbed to Find They Can't Delete Facebook

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Says the site with ~20-30 crapware JS trackers (12 blocked by uBlock, 23 by uMatrix). I'm not forgiving FB here, just pointing out that others are often similarly bad.

Imagine the impact on energy consumption having to run these ad blockers + running the ad infrastructure. Global warming, is that you?

So visiting a web page without ublock and the like is akin to idling your car in the morning

Re: Samsung Phone Users Perturbed to Find They Can't Delete Facebook

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I know I can clean up crapware, via adb, but on principle vote with my wallet. It's not acceptable to charge me something that rounds to a thousand euros and then fleece me for a few extra bucks. Right now, I restrict my selection to Android One [1] phones. The current one is a Nokia 8 Sirocco. [1] https://www.android.com/one/

What about OnePlus?

Even though I am an extremely happy owner of a 5T, I won't buy another OnePlus device now that they have removed the headphone jack. That's the difficult part of voting with your wallet - your choices become more and more limited if the market isn't aligned with your personal preference.

Re: Samsung Phone Users Perturbed to Find They Can't Delete Facebook

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It's not just FB, my Samsung S9 came preloaded with 'undeletable' Microsoft apps too. But this is nothing new, Samsung phones have came preloaded with bloat since forever. When buying a new phone I always spend some time deleting all Samsung, Microsoft, Facebook and carrier related apps. Yes, you can delete 'undeletable' apps through ADB, without rooting the device. pm uninstall -k --user 0

I know I can clean up crapware, via adb, but on principle vote with my wallet. It's not acceptable to charge me something that rounds to a thousand euros and then fleece me for a few extra bucks. Right now, I restrict my selection to Android One [1] phones. The current one is a Nokia 8 Sirocco. [1] https://www.android.com/one/

What's your experience with Android One? First time I hear about it but I'm intrigued, doesn't it come from Google anyway? So the "secure" claims are kind of empty?

Re: Samsung Phone Users Perturbed to Find They Can't Delete Facebook

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It's not just FB, my Samsung S9 came preloaded with 'undeletable' Microsoft apps too. But this is nothing new, Samsung phones have came preloaded with bloat since forever. When buying a new phone I always spend some time deleting all Samsung, Microsoft, Facebook and carrier related apps. Yes, you can delete 'undeletable' apps through ADB, without rooting the device. pm uninstall -k --user 0

My note 9 got preinstalled with Word, Excel, PowerPoint, OneDrive and LinkedIn. Is that what you call crapware?

I mean, I don't use LinkedIn nor OneDrive, and I only occasionally use the others, but these are high-quality pieces of software, you can completely disable these apps natively as well, they're not removed, but they don't impact the system in any way aside from taking up a small chunk of your memory.

Re: Samsung Phone Users Perturbed to Find They Can't Delete Facebook

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Facebook has a ton of dark patterns. There is always one unread message in there shitty messenger client. Except there are zero conversations because I deleted them. And the messenger app is an incredible piece of junk, whoever did the ux with the chat heads should find a new line of work.

Hmm. What do you dislike about the Messenger app?

Always having one unread message and the stupid chat head interface.

Re: Samsung Phone Users Perturbed to Find They Can't Delete Facebook

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post #21

Says the site with ~20-30 crapware JS trackers (12 blocked by uBlock, 23 by uMatrix). I'm not forgiving FB here, just pointing out that others are often similarly bad.

Imagine the impact on energy consumption having to run these ad blockers + running the ad infrastructure. Global warming, is that you?

It's called war of attrition, I think.

Re: Samsung Phone Users Perturbed to Find They Can't Delete Facebook

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Also, they will endlessly re-suscribe you to their spam even after you unsubscribe. Some months after unsubscribing from friend's posts email alerts, I changed my password to something I did not want to remember, only to be automatically re-subscribed, without notice, to their post updates.

Facebook has a ton of dark patterns. There is always one unread message in there shitty messenger client. Except there are zero conversations because I deleted them. And the messenger app is an incredible piece of junk, whoever did the ux with the chat heads should find a new line of work.

> whoever did the ux with the chat heads should find a new line of work.

Fascinating. I always wish other apps had the chat head feature as it's pretty much the only reason I still use the messenger app instead of Trillian.

Re: Samsung Phone Users Perturbed to Find They Can't Delete Facebook

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It's not just FB, my Samsung S9 came preloaded with 'undeletable' Microsoft apps too. But this is nothing new, Samsung phones have came preloaded with bloat since forever. When buying a new phone I always spend some time deleting all Samsung, Microsoft, Facebook and carrier related apps. Yes, you can delete 'undeletable' apps through ADB, without rooting the device. pm uninstall -k --user 0

I never dove too deep into trying to uninstall undesirable apps from my android phones because I thought rooting a phone was necessary. But now seeing this, am curious to try it on a few old phones that i use as podcast/mp3 playing devices while mowing the lawn, etc. Thanks for sharing this!

Re: Samsung Phone Users Perturbed to Find They Can't Delete Facebook

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Unsubscribing from these emails (Facebook, Twitter, idk, doesn't matter) is a chore, they make you go through lots of hoops and then they ignore the request and keep spamming you anyway. Also, by unsubscribing you're revealing to them that you are opening and reading those emails, which is something you probably don't want to disclose. The best solution is to simply configure a filter in your email client so those em…

Or nuke your account. I deleted my Facebook account halfway last year. Haven't received a single e-mail since.

You can't delete accounts. Only deactivate them. But if you ever log in again it all comes back up as it was before you deactivated it,

This was a huge problem for my wife because her deactivated account got hacked and then myself and all of her friends and family started getting spam.

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