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Dell Might Have Just Perfected the XPS 13

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Re: Dell Might Have Just Perfected the XPS 13

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The Dell XPS 13 looks like an impressive laptop. Does anyone know if it supports linux and if it will be sold with linux preinstalled?

I'm running Manjaro on my XPS 13 9360, dual boot. Had to fight a bit with Secure boot and the storage drivers, but once installed it's been a joy to use. Had problems in Windows with the Killer wifi drivers, resulting in bad latency when on conference calls but nothing like that on Linux.

Re: Dell Might Have Just Perfected the XPS 13

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post #10

The Dell XPS 13 looks like an impressive laptop. Does anyone know if it supports linux and if it will be sold with linux preinstalled?

While Dell sells many models with Linux preinstalled, it only does so in limited regions. Even within regions, it can differ between what is offered online and what is offered in stores. The most probable answer for an individual is no, Windows only. Despite the fact that at least earlier releases are Ubuntu Certified, per https://certification.ubuntu.com/desktop/models/?query=XPS+1...

Since we are talking about the xps 13 specifically, such general statements are not really relevant.

All recent xps 13 models have been available as "developer editions" with ubuntu and there is no reason to expect this new model won't be as well.

Re: Dell Might Have Just Perfected the XPS 13

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Did they fix the coil whine? If not, I will not buy a 4th XPS 13. This review seems to be mainly focused on the location of the webcam. Do that many people use webcams on laptops? I generally remove or tape over mine, and see countless coworkers and random folks in cafes do the same.

I would like to echo that everyone should be aware of the coil whine issue when considering this laptop. The problem is that there can be a slight high-pitched and intermittent sound that may or may not drive you crazy if you hear it. It is inconsistent as well and may not be noticeable until after you've used it for a short while (probably within minutes of use, but maybe not when you first play around with it in say a store).

I loved the XPS 13 years back when I first bought it, but this issue caused me to return it directly (but not tell them why). At the time it was important to not mention the issue as the reason, because Dell would insist on sending you back either a fixed laptop or a new one (usually of course the issue would be present). Actually it was a bit worse, since any Dell rep would claim to never have heard of the issue and so you'd have to first go through that back and forth explaining them what was happening. Many customers went back and forth multiple times (and didn't even have a laptop in between the back and forths) and finally after multiple months Dell would refuse a refund and you were left with a laptop that was essentially psychologically unusable. I was a listener on a thread about this on the Dell forums where the same complains would be posted for _years_ with newer versions of the laptop. Their disrespect for their customers shouldn't be forgotten.

So basically it's buyer beware when it comes to this machine. Maybe it's no longer an issue, but Dell does _not_ deserve the benefit of the doubt here. I would consider it again if I could try it ahead of time (i.e. at a store) and only in a situation in which I knew I could return it afterwards (without a restocking fee or anything similar). I recommend others take the same precautions.

Re: Dell Might Have Just Perfected the XPS 13

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The Dell XPS 13 looks like an impressive laptop. Does anyone know if it supports linux and if it will be sold with linux preinstalled?

In the past they’ve sold a Ubuntu “developer edition.”

FWIW, I’ve installed Ubuntu on two different years’ xps13 sold with windows and the only hardware trouble was Bluetooth issues on one (I never had any reason to try and fix, so I don’t know what the underlying cause was).

Re: Dell Might Have Just Perfected the XPS 13

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I've been a Lenovo diehard for a while now, but the XPS continues to call out to me. Beautiful device in person, I may just switch when the time comes.

Are you rocking an X1 Carbon then? How do you compare it to the XPS 13?

It's time I get a new laptop and can't decide between the X1 Carbon, XPS 13, or the HP Spectre x360 13T (the new diamond cut blue one).

I like the 2-in-1 but seems Dell really nerfs their XPS13 2-in-1... and the Yoga seems to not be as nice as the Spectre.

Re: Dell Might Have Just Perfected the XPS 13

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post #11

The Dell XPS 13 looks like an impressive laptop. Does anyone know if it supports linux and if it will be sold with linux preinstalled?

I'm running Manjaro on my XPS 13 9360, dual boot. Had to fight a bit with Secure boot and the storage drivers, but once installed it's been a joy to use. Had problems in Windows with the Killer wifi drivers, resulting in bad latency when on conference calls but nothing like that on Linux.

> Had problems in Windows with the Killer wifi drivers

That's odd... if I remember correctly, that was the entire point of the "Killer" brand network cards back then they were still sold separate for gaming systems.

Re: Dell Might Have Just Perfected the XPS 13

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post #17
post #5

I've been a Lenovo diehard for a while now, but the XPS continues to call out to me. Beautiful device in person, I may just switch when the time comes.

Are you rocking an X1 Carbon then? How do you compare it to the XPS 13? It's time I get a new laptop and can't decide between the X1 Carbon, XPS 13, or the HP Spectre x360 13T (the new diamond cut blue one). I like the 2-in-1 but seems Dell really nerfs their XPS13 2-in-1... and the Yoga seems to not be as nice as the Spectre.

Yes, currently the X1 Carbon.

It's nice and light yet very sturdy. Comfortable keyboard (but that may be because I'm used to these keyboards after so many years of use, I know other people hate the key placements)

Also, I'm not a trackpad guy so I couldn't tell you how well it works comparatively speaking.

I'm able to throw all of my dev related work at it and it performs admirably.

Just a nice little work horse that stays out of my way.

edit: I have the 2017 model by the way.

Re: Dell Might Have Just Perfected the XPS 13

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you rocking an X1 Carbon then? How do you compare it to the XPS 13? It's time I get a new laptop and can't decide between the X1 Carbon, XPS 13, or the HP Spectre x360 13T (the new diamond cut blue one). I like the 2-in-1 but seems Dell really nerfs their XPS13 2-in-1... and the Yoga seems to not be as nice as the Spectre.

Yes, currently the X1 Carbon. It's nice and light yet very sturdy. Comfortable keyboard (but that may be because I'm used to these keyboards after so many years of use, I know other people hate the key placements) Also, I'm not a trackpad guy so I couldn't tell you how well it works comparatively speaking. I'm able to throw all of my dev related work at it and it performs admirably. Just a nice little work horse that…

I have a T520 right now... and it's time it gets retired. You might be convincing me to jump into the X1 Carbon. Just wish it has the Vega integrated graphics instead of the UHD620 intel stuff!
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