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Google’s Project Soli radar is sensitive enough to count sheets of paper

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Re: Google’s Project Soli radar is sensitive enough to count sheets of paper

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This small radard is sensitive enough to identify playing cards by looking at the tiny texture. Looking forward to seeing magicians using this in card tricks. Face ID with hyper sensitive radard should also be very accurate.

actually it doesn't identify each card uniquely, it only counts them.

Re: Google’s Project Soli radar is sensitive enough to count sheets of paper

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Firstly, I think (though I could be wrong) that when they talk about privacy concerns they mean the sort of concerns the average person would have about having a camera about... I.e. naked or compromising pictures of themselves getting leaked. I would guess this wouldn't be a problem with radar as it doesn't create images. Out of curiosity though, not having much knowledge on the subject myself, what would be your se…

Don’t confuse privacy with secrecy. I know what you do in the bathroom, but you still close the door. That’s because you want privacy, not secrecy. (From I have nothing to hide. Why should I care about my privacy? : https://medium.com/@FabioAEsteves/i-have-nothing-to-hide-why... ) From a previous HN discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14394863 google has no business needing to know where I am or am not.…

s/secrecy/confidentiality/

But privacy is relevant here. Easy example: a person whispering,their private conversation no loses it's privacy due to lip movements being read. Two people enter a room and exchange an item for cash,with radar their transaction loses privacy.

Re: Google’s Project Soli radar is sensitive enough to count sheets of paper

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This small radard is sensitive enough to identify playing cards by looking at the tiny texture. Looking forward to seeing magicians using this in card tricks. Face ID with hyper sensitive radard should also be very accurate.

Do facial recognition systems retrain themselves to compensate for change caused by growth or age?

Anecdata: I regularly grow a beard and then cut it fully. Windows Hello on my Surface Pro works flawlessy during the growth phase, but it stops working when I cut it off. I guess it adjusts while my beard grows and then it can't recognize me anymore once I don't have it anymore all of a sudden.

Re: Google’s Project Soli radar is sensitive enough to count sheets of paper

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Hmm are you sure? I thought they were just using hole cams still. Little cameras built into the rail or into the table that players just showed their hands to while playing. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hole_cam

theyre both common. rfid/nfc is popular at the moment simply because it's cheaper; no table to cut up or glass/cameras to put everywhere. as a poker player i've always been queezy about the idea that my hand could be read remotely in theory -- but I don't play those kind of tables anyway.

Yep. See here to purchase: http://www.videopokertable.net

Re: Google’s Project Soli radar is sensitive enough to count sheets of paper

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They do ... That's how they know what each player have in his hands at poker tournament live feeds

Hmm are you sure? I thought they were just using hole cams still. Little cameras built into the rail or into the table that players just showed their hands to while playing. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hole_cam

Yep, that's the old tables problem is it's up to the player to show their hands and some either don't care or don't want to reveal their startegy ... I think they even have RFID chips, it makes the game much more televisable

Re: Google’s Project Soli radar is sensitive enough to count sheets of paper

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I can’t say I see the win with the from a HCI standpoint. I personally lust for more tactile feedback, not less!

The HCI win doesn't come from making gestures in thin-air, it comes from being able to interpret regular tactile interactions with physical objects.

Consider the playing cards example: instead of tapping on digital images of cards, you can now touch and hold physical cards to manipulate a digital system with one convenient sensor.

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Radar can create images just not true to life color photos. But, leak such a photo of a couple in their bedroom with the blinds closed and you have a problem.

I can see through my blinds with a regular Nikon 300mm zoom lens .... I think because there is enough light going through the bunch of holes?

If you mean from the inside that’s a question of contrast. Look at a tv in a dark room through one side of a t-shirt a few inches from your face and it’s a non issue. Try the same while the side facing you is well lit and it does not work.

Under some situations you can see through thin cloth blinds like this from the outside, but that’s mostly poor blind choices.

Re: Google’s Project Soli radar is sensitive enough to count sheets of paper

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Just to be clear, I'm talking about weird dudes with prurient motivations scanning unconsenting people through the walls of their homes.

To expound, why people are taking issue with word choice: fet·ish·ize - verb - Make (something) the object of a sexual fetish. Ergo, fetishizing the technology prolly isn't what you meant.

s/fetishize the technology/fetishize the product of the technology/
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