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Meat-free 'Impossible Burger 2.0' tastes even closer to the real deal

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Re: Meat-free 'Impossible Burger 2.0' tastes even closer to the real deal

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Post by mrspeaker »

puranjay wrote: post #146
nindalf wrote: post #3

Congrats to that team for building a great product. I hope they see a lot of success. Long term, I hope plant based meat alternatives become commoditized. If there are a bunch of alternatives that taste just as good and importantly are cheaper than meat , most people will switch. That's a huge win for the environment (and also animal rights), and I can't wait to see it happen.

I love meat but I've always struggled to reconcile my love of eating it with my love of animals. I would be happy to pay a premium if it meant I could get meat-like taste without the guilt

I'm more excited about where they go after they get passed the "uncanny valley of meat". If they can nail it, they'll get bored and move on to new and weirder flavors and textures.

Hook it up to Watson and you don't just get new recipes, but they're combined with new meat! (https://www.bonappetit.com/entertaining-style/trends-news/ar...)

Re: Meat-free 'Impossible Burger 2.0' tastes even closer to the real deal

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Post by wvlia5- »

wvlia5- wrote: post #157
barrkel wrote: post #151

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well-being of animals is distinct from slaughtering them for food. The beef I buy comes from cows that roam in fields, usually in Ireland. They're not unhappy then, as I can attest having grown up in the countryside. And the fact there are so many of them means the total lifetime happiness (of the cows at least) probably outweighs their death, if it's done humanely.

Please, describe to me this 'humane killing' process, what does it look like?

So, shooting someone in the head is 'humane' then? Then, what does 'humane' even mean?

Re: Meat-free 'Impossible Burger 2.0' tastes even closer to the real deal

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Post by vkou »

zornado wrote: post #143
nindalf wrote: post #3

Congrats to that team for building a great product. I hope they see a lot of success. Long term, I hope plant based meat alternatives become commoditized. If there are a bunch of alternatives that taste just as good and importantly are cheaper than meat , most people will switch. That's a huge win for the environment (and also animal rights), and I can't wait to see it happen.

I am not getting this. Highly processed foods are the source of all problems and people cheer up for synthetic food!

Saying that food is 'processed' is meaningless.

What matters is how it is processed.

Re: Meat-free 'Impossible Burger 2.0' tastes even closer to the real deal

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Post by cr0sh »

logfromblammo wrote: post #50
nindalf wrote: post #3

Congrats to that team for building a great product. I hope they see a lot of success. Long term, I hope plant based meat alternatives become commoditized. If there are a bunch of alternatives that taste just as good and importantly are cheaper than meat , most people will switch. That's a huge win for the environment (and also animal rights), and I can't wait to see it happen.

This is about the only kind of vegan proselytizing that I can stomach. If you can make food that tastes as good as meat, with nutrition similar to meat, and sell it at a lower price than meat, I will switch overnight, and never look back. And it would be nice if it came in bulk forms, rather than just as pre-formed patties. I eat ground beef a lot more often than I eat burgers. Until then, good luck with the test kit…

> This is about the only kind of vegan proselytizing that I can stomach. If you can make food that tastes as good as meat, with nutrition similar to meat, and sell it at a lower price than meat, I will switch overnight, and never look back.

I'm wanting to try it out someday, and am willing to pay the price for a "restaurant burger" made using the product - but the cost is too great currently for the home market. If they can reduce this, while making the product better, then I'm all for it.

That said - before I would be willing to switch fully, they'd have to be able to replicate a few kinds of cuts that are currently - well - impossible:

1. Well marbled aged rib-eye - steak and roast form, bone in

2. Pork shoulder

3. Full-size beef brisket, fat cap and all, plus tip

One day, perhaps...

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Post by AnIdiotOnTheNet »

testvox wrote: post #43
Vinnl wrote: post #11

I'm really curious about the "fake meat" products that exist in other countries. In the Netherlands, there's been enormous growth both in the number of vegetarians and in the number of "fake meat" products that have become widely available, and the quality of the latter has improved dramatically. Before, these products were mostly useful for the non-vegetarians wanting to prepare a meal for vegetarians without having…

We have a few available in the US, my favorite is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quorn#Production which is not vegan as it contains some amount of egg. But the majority of the product is made from soil mold protein, which is what makes it unique among the options I have available.

In the US, based on personal experience, I'd recommend Morningstar Farms for their variety, Beyond Meat if you can find it, and Field Roast Grain Meat.

Re: Meat-free 'Impossible Burger 2.0' tastes even closer to the real deal

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Post by imjk »

dreamcompiler wrote: post #147

The 1.0 version was not very good, at least to this meat-lover. I tried it at White Castle several months ago and I'd never order another one. Here's hoping the 2.0 version is good enough to move me further in the vegetarian direction.

I wonder how much the purveyor makes a difference in the quality of the product (I'm hoping not much). I had the opposite experience as you, but I bought my Impossible from an Umami Burger and it was seriously a surreal experience for me and my gf. I was so pleasantly surprised by how good it was that we went back the next day to get another.

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Post by kibwen »

LanceH wrote: post #159
blacksmith_tb wrote: post #115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What if the 'proselytizing' was environmental instead? Switching away from meat would lessen your footprint considerably, and likely improve your health[1] even if you don't care about the moral arguments. 1: http://time.com/4266874/vegetarian-diet-climate-change/

This is really the most compelling argument to me and has me reducing (specifcally red) meat consumption.

Thirded, even as someone who has no intent of going full vegetarian anytime soon, in the past year I've significantly reduced the amount of meat, particularly red, that I eat on a regular basis. I'm just fine with reserving my meat meals for special occasions.

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Post by cr0sh »

be-ez wrote: post #128
chris11 wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I did see an impossible meatloaf in a grocery store, and it looks like their website is showing ground beef. So it looks like they are slowly branching out into other products.

Impossible is not currently available directly to consumers. They do not make a meatloaf - it is possible the grocery store bought the raw product and is selling their own meatloaf.

That, or they saw the "Beyond Burger" being used in a similar manner.

Beyond seems to be moving into that space, and Impossible is giving them the moment. Whether (or if) Impossible can recapture that market segment remains to be seen.

Re: Meat-free 'Impossible Burger 2.0' tastes even closer to the real deal

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Post by AnIdiotOnTheNet »

SupaFlyak wrote: post #12

Do vegan/vegetarians really want something that reminds them of meat products? Why not just make a good meat-free sandwich that doesn't imitate another product?

While there are a lot of really delicious meals that can be made without any meat or attempting to imitate meat (Indian cuisine is really good at it), there's a lot of culture in food. I'm from Wisconsin and summer grill outs just don't feel right without beer and bratwursts (or some fair approximation), for instance.
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