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Mobile customer location data is ending up in the hands of bounty hunters

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Re: Mobile customer location data is ending up in the hands of bounty hunters

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post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is this a computer generated sentence?

It's perfectly good sentence (or 3, rather) once you insert the missing punctuation; a full stop before each of the capitalized words (except the first.)

It’s true that they are correctly formed sentences. But they seem to lack context. What does it mean to pay an operator to auto-rotate my number, and what relevance does it have with the subject of the posted article? What’s “free real estate” refer to?

Re: Mobile customer location data is ending up in the hands of bounty hunters

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Perhaps this is a good reason to use Google Voice and not give anyone the underlying real phone number with cell service.

any reason to think google doesn't sell your data

Googlers seem to have leaky lips, so I figure if they do something shady one of them is going to go to the press.

Re: Mobile customer location data is ending up in the hands of bounty hunters

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post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

any reason to think google doesn't sell your data

google monetizes your data (targeting), but doesn't sell it to others.

As we seen with the Google Plus bug that exposed user data even if Google would be a nice company even they can have a bug and expose your data, this makes me think that the best solution as a user is minimize the data that is collected about you and as a company to discard any data that you don't need and anonymize the data you have to keep and can be anonymized.

Re: Mobile customer location data is ending up in the hands of bounty hunters

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post #14

For EU folks: anyone tried a GDPR request to their phone provider to figure out what do they collect and what do they store? I'm thinking any of the following are within the realm of possibilities: - Call history, including metadata and potentially also contents; - Text messages, same as with calls: metadata and potentially the contents; - Location history; - Data connection activity, again: metadata and potentially…

Can you post your request and who is sent it to - with yours as a starting point I reckon a few of us can iterate to a good solution

Re: Mobile customer location data is ending up in the hands of bounty hunters

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> “The allegation here would violate our contract and Privacy Policy,” an AT&T spokesperson told Motherboard in an email. That pretty much sums up how much carriers care about this. But it is nice to see Senator Ron Wyden is still doing good work, almost restores my faith in politics.

Telco companies will keep selling data as long as it's profitable. If the company continues to sell data to the offending clients despite knowingly violating its terms, then a case could be made for negligence against the telco. In my eyes this practice, like many shady data-dealings, lacks legal precedence and its profitability will change as litigation mounts against the telcos. Furthermore national laws need individual cases to gain traction. Bad practices are bound to change when a few high profile cases end up in the courts. Feels funny to say this, but it seems like the world needs more lawyers.

Re: Mobile customer location data is ending up in the hands of bounty hunters

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Perhaps this is a good reason to use Google Voice and not give anyone the underlying real phone number with cell service.

I’ve set up a DID that leads directly to a voicemail box that emails me the recording. It’s worth the $1/month expense to have a number to hand out to people I don’t want to be available to. And, in a way, it keeps me available when I’m overseas and don’t have my usual SIM card installed. I use VoIP.ms

What gets me are all of the places (like Venmo, et al) who pitch a fit if a user dares give them a not-a-real-mobile-number. Even if the number is SMS-capable, they complain.

I wonder if the fact that services like this won't work on VoIP numbers is a reason why. Regardless of the motivation, it's annoying because I don't give out my real mobile number to hardly anyone for this--and spam call/text avoidance--reason.

Re: Mobile customer location data is ending up in the hands of bounty hunters

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post #9

It would appear that sometimes even paying for the service doesn’t mean you won’t end up as the product anyway. How can one avoid this kind of aggregated location tracking?

> How can one avoid this kind of aggregated location tracking?

Write your representatives, explain the problem, and ask them to fix it.

Re: Mobile customer location data is ending up in the hands of bounty hunters

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post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's perfectly good sentence (or 3, rather) once you insert the missing punctuation; a full stop before each of the capitalized words (except the first.)

It’s true that they are correctly formed sentences. But they seem to lack context. What does it mean to pay an operator to auto-rotate my number, and what relevance does it have with the subject of the posted article? What’s “free real estate” refer to?

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Re: Mobile customer location data is ending up in the hands of bounty hunters

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post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's perfectly good sentence (or 3, rather) once you insert the missing punctuation; a full stop before each of the capitalized words (except the first.)

It’s true that they are correctly formed sentences. But they seem to lack context. What does it mean to pay an operator to auto-rotate my number, and what relevance does it have with the subject of the posted article? What’s “free real estate” refer to?

"It's free real estate" is a meme based on a parody of late-night infomercials touting quick and easy money but are actually bait-and-switch scams.

https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/its-free-real-estate

The other two bits are probably meaning that the phone company can make money selling your location and make money charging you to change phone numbers every so often to avoid tracking efforts by people who only have your old number.

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