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Mozilla Announces Deal to Bring Firefox Reality to HTC VIVE Devices

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Re: Mozilla Announces Deal to Bring Firefox Reality to HTC VIVE Devices

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Not quite sure what this means - is Firefox Reality going to be the default browser on the VIVE?

Yes. It will be the pre-installed default browser on Vive devices.

I still don't understand what this means. It's like saying Firefox will be the default browser of Dell monitors. The HTC Vive is a display.

Unless they're referring to HTC's software suite (Viveport I think it's called), which very few people use because it's some of the worst software I've ever seen. For example, it somehow managed to jam the entire 2.4GHz and 5GHz bands in my apartment while it was running. Not even sure how it's possible to do that by accident.

Re: Mozilla Announces Deal to Bring Firefox Reality to HTC VIVE Devices

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Yes. It will be the pre-installed default browser on Vive devices.

I still don't understand what this means. It's like saying Firefox will be the default browser of Dell monitors. The HTC Vive is a display. Unless they're referring to HTC's software suite (Viveport I think it's called), which very few people use because it's some of the worst software I've ever seen. For example, it somehow managed to jam the entire 2.4GHz and 5GHz bands in my apartment while it was running. Not eve…

Can confirm the PC software is terrible and should just never be installed.

I think this is actually about their freestanding arm based headsets as this is the only target Firefox Reality builds for (android probably).

Re: Mozilla Announces Deal to Bring Firefox Reality to HTC VIVE Devices

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(this announcement is most likely about mobile vr headsets, not the PC side)

I'm pleased about this because -

1- Firefox Reality is actually "Servo" ie the Rust based browser Mozilla has been developing for years. edit - UGGGH this may not ship with Servo enabled :(

2- This is a stamp of approval from both Firefox and HTC that Servo is ready for consumers at least for this use case (which is very demanding low latency graphics!)

3- Actual Firefox means far higher standards of privacy and integrity then some cancerous Chromium embedded scenario.

I'm concerned enough to think twice about buying anything from Vive mobile because -

1- Their Vive PC software is awful shovelware.

2- It's not clear what the OS environment around the browser would be in an HTC branded mobile headset. If it's a clean version of Android that can be hacked on and replaced then we have something.

3- WebXR/WebVR still has no useful way to actually browse the real web, there is no "HTMLTexture" to allow you to say even look at Wikipedia through a portal. As a result you are trapped in basically WebXR Demo hell...

Re: Mozilla Announces Deal to Bring Firefox Reality to HTC VIVE Devices

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(this announcement is most likely about mobile vr headsets, not the PC side) I'm pleased about this because - 1- Firefox Reality is actually "Servo" ie the Rust based browser Mozilla has been developing for years. edit - UGGGH this may not ship with Servo enabled :( 2- This is a stamp of approval from both Firefox and HTC that Servo is ready for consumers at least for this use case (which is very demanding low latenc…

> 1- Firefox Reality is actually "Servo" ie the Rust based browser Mozilla has been developing for years.

Firefox Reality currently uses GeckoView, Gecko repackaged in a WebView-like embeddable Android component. The Firefox Reality team is still working on experimental support for Servo:

https://github.com/MozillaReality/FirefoxReality/#experiment...

Re: Mozilla Announces Deal to Bring Firefox Reality to HTC VIVE Devices

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Firefox from what I gathered will be used as the de facto browser in in-VR web browsing. If you read the VIVE promotion article on VIVE homepage you'd know that they are planning a kind of VR metaverse as an interface to the games you play - instead of picking an option from a flat surface you'll "walk" into the app/game. But of course this doesn't change the facts that web is flat so any in-app or in-game web will be displayed in some fashion using the Firefox Reality engine.

Re: Mozilla Announces Deal to Bring Firefox Reality to HTC VIVE Devices

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Why would they deal with HTC and not just Steam in general.

I have had Vive since day 1. I am never touching anything HTC again. I'm happy enough with the device and technology I have- but the HTC software is horrendous and there's no place for it. I've heard just horror story after horror story of HTC customer service / repair, wanting $200 for a new controller etc.

Vive Pro is a complete joke, in price.

HTC hasn't done anything positive since the release of the original vive.

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