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Re: Ask HN: Is web development still a viable career choice?

#71
Here are a few observations, in no particular order:

1. No one here can really tell you. They would be guessing. I would go on to indeed.com and type in the skill set you consider to be "web dev" and make note of the number of jobs and (where available) salary offering. This is the current state of the market.

2. You are asking an even more complicated question about the future state. The answer is even more prone to speculation. Your guess is as good as anyone's.

3. Although web-dev in its current form will almost certainly not be in demand, the future form will evolve out of the current form so the time you spend learning, debugging, networking will likely not be wasted. (unless we crack General AI).

Re: Ask HN: Is web development still a viable career choice?

#72
Totally. Web is still a very dominant platform and will remain as such. Even mobile platform vendors like Google seem to support (and even promote) web as a first class choice for delivering content and apps on mobile devices.

Also, web development can be a good entry point to get into software development in general. You'll inevitably cross paths with backends that power the web and can grow into a backend developer as well. Also, today developing for web frontends and native mobile/desktop apps is more similar than ever.

Re: Ask HN: Is web development still a viable career choice?

#74
post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How about "web developer who thinks heavy client-side frameworks are a bad idea"?

That is basically what he lists under number 2, "classic web developer".

Not necessarily, since someone would need to build the server backend for anything more complex than a static website.

As other people have noted, classifying "web developer" as "frontend web developer" is a bit restrictive.

Re: Ask HN: Is web development still a viable career choice?

#75
post #10

Solving [business] problems is a viable career choice. Web development could be solving someone's essential business problem or totally non-essential for someone else. The key is to find the customer for whom whatever you're doing will solve essential business problem. Quite often web development is exactly what customer needs but he won't call it this way. He won't use this wording. He won't look for web developer.…

You are making an assumption here they want to freelance or take a consulting position. There are plenty of web development positions available on teams or at agencies that find the customers for you. There is no need for someone just learning web development to go straight into consulting work. In fact, I'd highly recommend against it. You'll get the most out of working with other developers and improving your skill…

> In fact, I'd highly recommend against it. You'll get the most out of working with other developers and improving your skills before you go out on your own (if you ever go out on your own).

I often wonder at the whole "gotta be a contractor" mentality. I understand there's more money there, but I think that there's a huge value in learning to be a team player where you're building something you are actually invested in, if even for only a 1-2 year period. As a contractor, the skills you build and lessons you learn are important, but they aren't as concrete as living and dying with a particular team and a particular solution for an extended period. In addition, I feel like you are more likely to get vital mentorship at the critical early part of your career as a member of the team instead of a replaceable contractor cog.

Re: Ask HN: Is web development still a viable career choice?

#76
Yes. I am the co-founder of Lambda School - (YC S17 - a CS education where the school doesn’t get paid unless you get a good job). Right now we see about 3 students/day get hired.

You’ll likely hear a lot of people talking about how the market for juniors is flooded. That is partially true, but it’s flooded with people who cannot code. If you can actually be a productive employee I literally know 100 companies that will hire you today. As a self-taught engineer you have to convince them of that, which mostly means a solid portfolio, but there is insane demand. And if you get even one year of experience you won’t believe how many opportunities open up.

There are individual companies whose annual growth in engineer hiring is greater than the total number of CS and bootcamp grads combined.

Re: Ask HN: Is web development still a viable career choice?

#77
It depends on what you mean by web developer. That used to mean taking mockups done in Photoshop and turning them into HTML. Today that narrow role on the team is often outsourced or does not pay very well.

If by web developer you are referring to what many now call a "front end" developer then yes, that field is very busy and can pay quite well. Front end developers are expected to know a popular JavaScript framework (such as React) as well as CSS and HTML. Front end development is a dynamic and exciting field. I've been in and around "web development" for roughly 20 years and it is quite fun and has quite the future ahead.

Just last week the top trending article on HN was about how you should start with a web app instead of a mobile app. Today there are really powerful and much easier to use frameworks than what we had compared to just a few years ago. I say, if the web truly interests you then dive in head first and pour your heart into your work and most of all SHOW YOUR WORK publicly so people can find you and know you. That's how you find great teams.

Re: Ask HN: Is web development still a viable career choice?

#79
Hell yes! Just don't try and be the guy making 3 page info sites for your local gardener/bakery/whatever. There's simply no money in that, as they can do that themselves for free with an online website builder, so the value add from a good dev is minimal.

Once you've honed your skills, focus on the more complex, bespoke projects. Become good at delivering on time and try to find clients that wish to invest in tech to improve their business further. They will generally appreciate your work more and will not hesitate to pay you good money if you're genuinely adding to their bottom line.

Re: Ask HN: Is web development still a viable career choice?

#80
post #14

>Six months sounds like a lot No, it does not. Learning new skill from scratch takes time. You're trying to master 2 new, orthogonal, in some sense contradictory skills: web development, and self-promotion (to find your place in "the job market"). Take a deep breath.

Considering how little I knew after a 4-year Bachelor's degree, 6 months of nights and weekends is insignificant.
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