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Alibaba acquires Berlin-based data Artisans for $103M

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Re: Alibaba acquires Berlin-based data Artisans for $103M

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Post by jamesblonde »

sewen wrote: post #79
jamesblonde wrote: post #2

Great product. It should have happened last week, then we truly could have said that all Enterprise Apache Open Software products died of the AWS plague in 2018: Hadoop is gone with Cloudera/Hortonworks merging, Kafka with Confluent's new license covering their ecosystem of tooling. Databricks now have their own Spark runtime, which will get more TLC than Apache Spark. On top of Apache, Mongo, Neo4J, Redis Labs aband…

Sorry, but that is not correct. We clearly say in all announcements that this is about doubling down on open source. In contrast to all current the efforts everywhere that restrict open use, we plan to do even more work openly. This is best thing that could have happened to any open source project. And to any founder whose heart beats for technology and open source...

Nice comeback. Made me smile.

Re: Alibaba acquires Berlin-based data Artisans for $103M

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Post by jamesblonde »

jamesblonde wrote: post #67
jamesblonde wrote: post #3

What is it about European Enterprise Data software companies that they never make it past this stage without either being bought up or moving to the States? MySQL, JBoss, Elastic. The list is much longer.

I wrote a quick blog post outlining my thoughts on the problems with building European Data companies here: https://www.logicalclocks.com/what-is-it-with-european-data-...

We can continue the conversation here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18854862

Re: Alibaba acquires Berlin-based data Artisans for $103M

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Post by jamesblonde »

sewen wrote: post #79
jamesblonde wrote: post #2

Great product. It should have happened last week, then we truly could have said that all Enterprise Apache Open Software products died of the AWS plague in 2018: Hadoop is gone with Cloudera/Hortonworks merging, Kafka with Confluent's new license covering their ecosystem of tooling. Databricks now have their own Spark runtime, which will get more TLC than Apache Spark. On top of Apache, Mongo, Neo4J, Redis Labs aband…

Sorry, but that is not correct. We clearly say in all announcements that this is about doubling down on open source. In contrast to all current the efforts everywhere that restrict open use, we plan to do even more work openly. This is best thing that could have happened to any open source project. And to any founder whose heart beats for technology and open source...

Aha, i see why you downvoted me. You were actually serious. I literally thought this was a generic tongue-in-cheek ironic comment made for the purpose of comedy. That's why it made me smile. That it's not ironic is even funnier.

Re: Alibaba acquires Berlin-based data Artisans for $103M

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Post by 431ui5sd »

pplonski86 wrote: post #45
devdimi wrote: post #42

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There are lot of reasons: -Europe is fragmented market. It is not given that German software will be gladly accepted and used in France, Italy or UK and vice versa. There are barriers there that does not exist in the US. -The capital market and the stock market are not as developed as in USA in terms of market participants and available funds. Going public is unlikely event. If it happens, it would not get a lot of p…

Could you give example of Europe based tech companies that went public in US?

Spotify (based in Stockholm)

Re: Alibaba acquires Berlin-based data Artisans for $103M

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Post by jamesblonde »

TheSpiceIsLife wrote: post #69
jamesblonde wrote: post #60

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It's an aqui-hire, i guess. Not great for Data Artisans customers. Alibaba are flexing their muscles. Google have their own data platform. We want to show we have our own too - they see it as competitive advantage. Alibaba are not an enterprise software company, like Data Artisans were.

Doesn’t Alibaba offer services similar to AWS? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alibaba_Cloud Unless I misunderstand what is meant by enterprise software ? I’m just a tradesman, mostly, so that’s quite possible.

An enterprise vendor would have been oracle or red hat who kept flink available and for sale on a clouds and on-premise. I can only buy assume flink will become an alibaba only managed service. Why else would they buy it?

Re: Alibaba acquires Berlin-based data Artisans for $103M

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Post by oblio »

kavalg wrote: post #76
oblio wrote: post #54

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An attempt. But the EU budget is much, much smaller than the US federal budget: EU: $150 billion for 2014 US: $3000 billion for 2014 And the barriers between national markets in the EU are much steeper than the ones between state markets in the US.

150 billion i still a good amount of money. The problem with EU funding is in the objectives: - Vaguely defined, so they open a lot of room for lobbying and corruption - It is hard to align them to a startup agenda and the administrative overhead is often prohibitive I wish it was more like a venture fund, but one that doesn't take equity. Just my two cents.

Those goals are vaguely defined because they're a compromise. The EU generally works by consensus, they're trying to herd 28 (soon to be 27) cats.

Re: Alibaba acquires Berlin-based data Artisans for $103M

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Post by pantalaimon »

eastendguy wrote: post #18
azag0 wrote: post #15

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For a perspective, 3m euro is about two lifetimes of an average salary in Berlin (north of 2k monthly after taxes)

Nobody in IT earns only 2K a month in Berlin...

Well I do…

Re: Alibaba acquires Berlin-based data Artisans for $103M

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Post by ionised »

hgq wrote: post #75
ionised wrote: post #62

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> Once you are financially secure, living in Germany makes no sense. How so? > Shitty weather To me, constant heat and sunshine is shitty weather. I prefer a temperate/boreal climate. I find it far more pleasant. > the insane apartment situation in any major city So just like every other major city currently. > shitty services They are going to have to be extraordinarily shitty to be worse than what I have already in…

What do you dislike so much about Spain?

It's not so much an active dislike as it is just not my cup of tea.

I've visited Spain a few times and it's nice in short bursts, but to live there I would have to deal with the weather (not everyone likes hot and sunny, I'd honestly prefer Norway's weather to Spain), the piss-poor developer salaries, the struggling economy, the food that I really am not a fan of, the poor quality of healthcare, the remnants of pro-Franco fascism in their political landscape etc.

It's just not for me. I think I'm more suited to Germanic/Nordic countries for culture.

Re: Alibaba acquires Berlin-based data Artisans for $103M

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Post by growlist »

ionised wrote: post #41
nraynaud wrote: post #26

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I think that ship has sailed, Europeans see what SV has become and are thankful that they failed in replicating the model.

I certainly am. I don't want a European Google or Facebook popping up. I want the existing Google and Facebook to go away.

Facebook at least seems to have caused more human misery than happiness.
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