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Tails – simplified installation method

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Re: Tails – simplified installation method

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Post by freedomben »

offbytwo wrote: post #9
freedomben wrote: post #2

Very cool, love this. My only hope is that this isn't so successful that they neglect the installer because nobody is using it anymore :-) For users on another Linux (such as Fedora, Arch, Ubuntu) using USB, this will hopefully be a big improvement. The previous process requiring two USB sticks was a PITA

> My only hope is that this isn't so successful that they neglect the installer because nobody is using it anymore :-) Wouldn't that be a good thing? I mean, you'd have a tough time finding a computer for sale in 2019 that even has a CD drive, why care about it so much?

My initial thought was that sometimes you want to install it to your hardware, not just a USB stick. If this is a finished install that lacks the installer, then you wouldn't be able to use it to install to a hard drive. I could be wrong tho.

Re: Tails – simplified installation method

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Post by WrtCdEvrydy »

auxym wrote: post #10
tlrobinson wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Etcher_(software) `dd` usually works fine if you're comfortable with the command line.

Or, you know, cat. https://www.vidarholen.net/contents/blog/?p=479

Okay, mark me as one of the lucky 10,000.

Re: Tails – simplified installation method

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Post by terrik »

freedomben wrote: post #11
offbytwo wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> My only hope is that this isn't so successful that they neglect the installer because nobody is using it anymore :-) Wouldn't that be a good thing? I mean, you'd have a tough time finding a computer for sale in 2019 that even has a CD drive, why care about it so much?

My initial thought was that sometimes you want to install it to your hardware, not just a USB stick. If this is a finished install that lacks the installer, then you wouldn't be able to use it to install to a hard drive. I could be wrong tho.

You could write the image to your hard drive like you would your flash drive.

OTH, installing to your hard drive kind of goes against Tails’ ephemeral approach.

Re: Tails – simplified installation method

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Post by giornogiovanna »

incompatible wrote: post #13

Is there a difference between CDROM and USB drive images? I write Ubuntu iso images to a USB drive with dd, and it seems to work.

There isn't a difference nowadays as far as I know, but used to have a computer that refused to boot off a USB. Also, with USBs, you can have a "persistent" install, which lets you keep things, but you have to be careful, because flash memory will die after a certain number of writes.

Re: Tails – simplified installation method

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Post by giornogiovanna »

freedomben wrote: post #11
offbytwo wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> My only hope is that this isn't so successful that they neglect the installer because nobody is using it anymore :-) Wouldn't that be a good thing? I mean, you'd have a tough time finding a computer for sale in 2019 that even has a CD drive, why care about it so much?

My initial thought was that sometimes you want to install it to your hardware, not just a USB stick. If this is a finished install that lacks the installer, then you wouldn't be able to use it to install to a hard drive. I could be wrong tho.

Fair enough, but installing Tails onto your hardware is against the spirit of Tails.

https://tails.boum.org/support/faq/index.en.html#index6h2

Re: Tails – simplified installation method

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Post by lucideer »

freedomben wrote: post #11
offbytwo wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> My only hope is that this isn't so successful that they neglect the installer because nobody is using it anymore :-) Wouldn't that be a good thing? I mean, you'd have a tough time finding a computer for sale in 2019 that even has a CD drive, why care about it so much?

My initial thought was that sometimes you want to install it to your hardware, not just a USB stick. If this is a finished install that lacks the installer, then you wouldn't be able to use it to install to a hard drive. I could be wrong tho.

If you're looking for something Tailsesque for your hardware, have a look at Whonix. Tails is very much made with amnesia in mind.
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