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Re: Announcing unlimited free private repos

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Post by CodeWriter23 »

archon810 wrote: post #509
iambateman wrote: post #190

A lot of people are concerned about the “what if they make me the product since I’m no longer paying.” A few reasons I don’t think that will happen: - private, single contributor repos tend to be pretty small. it costs Github very little to service a single account. - Github is a growing social network for developers. Getting young engineers on the platform for free will pay off handsomely when they join a team and a…

> private, single contributor repos tend to be pretty small. it costs Github very little to service a single account. Small but important correction, Github is letting up to 3 contributors use these free private repos. "For the first time, developers can use GitHub for their private projects with up to three collaborators per repository for free."

Right. “Unlimited number of Limited Repos“

Re: Announcing unlimited free private repos

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Post by hyperpallium »

fnord123 wrote: post #363
femto113 wrote: post #302

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Revenue != income. It's quite likely the profit margin on developer accounts is lower than the other types, and if this cuts the knees out from under the competition may well be cheaper than, say, paying for advertising.

>if this cuts the knees out from under the competition All of Github's competitors (i.e. gitlab and bitbucket) already offer unlimited private repos. This is Github catching up.

I was thinking that Bitbucket still has its promise to always be free.

However, I don't think it will be an issue. As hosting costs drop to zero, if someone starts charging, they lose customers to a free competitor. (as is happening here).

Re: Announcing unlimited free private repos

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Post by shaklee3 »

sonnyblarney wrote: post #537
xapata wrote: post #496

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, Microsoft realized that long ago. Gates and Balmer prolonged the inevitable through monopoly power, but Nadella has accepted the future and is "turning the aircraft carrier." It's amazing that Microsoft came back to life from being a zombie company. In hindsight, it was such a large zombie that it had sufficient time to change business models. Somehow Sears wasn't. There's a business school case study and tenure…

If by 'zombie company' you mean raking in massive amounts of money and growing spectacularly every year? [1] MSFT has changed in some positive ways, but since Satya took over, growth has been actually flat-ish to negative overall until 2018 (a good year). Paradoxically, MSFT stock was flat during the Ballmer years when there was rock solid consistent growth. The 'new MSFT' things is quite overrated in terms of what i…

I'm not sure what you're talking about. The link you sent shows their revenue increasing dramatically since he took over (2014), and their stock shows the same.

Re: Announcing unlimited free private repos

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Post by eeeeeeeeeeeee »

fipple wrote: post #482
iambateman wrote: post #190

A lot of people are concerned about the “what if they make me the product since I’m no longer paying.” A few reasons I don’t think that will happen: - private, single contributor repos tend to be pretty small. it costs Github very little to service a single account. - Github is a growing social network for developers. Getting young engineers on the platform for free will pay off handsomely when they join a team and a…

Microsoft isn't even trying to directly make money off GitHub Enterprise. What they're doing is plugging GitHub into a giant ecosystem of Azure-related services that they sell to large corporations for millions of dollars per year per customer. They could give away GitHub for free entirely, and might, if there's a one-click "deploy to Azure" and similar functionality that brings people into the Microsoft shop.

Yep, exactly, and the lock-in on Azure is much better. It’s near trivial to switch between hosted Git providers.

Integrations/hooks/CI add some stickyness which is probably why places like Gitlab focus on offering CI to be more than simply “git in the cloud.”

Re: Announcing unlimited free private repos

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Post by mikeash »

iambateman wrote: post #190

A lot of people are concerned about the “what if they make me the product since I’m no longer paying.” A few reasons I don’t think that will happen: - private, single contributor repos tend to be pretty small. it costs Github very little to service a single account. - Github is a growing social network for developers. Getting young engineers on the platform for free will pay off handsomely when they join a team and a…

GitHub already had a business model where they give a lot of stuff away for free and make it up on a premium offering. This just shifts the line between the two very slightly. I don’t see this creating any new concerns.

Re: Announcing unlimited free private repos

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Post by eeeeeeeeeeeee »

gtaylor wrote: post #67
klinskyc wrote: post #39

While understandable, this is sad to see. The amount of interesting and useful code that is currently available due to GitHub defaulting to public will likely be seriously negatively impacted by this.

I can only speak for myself, but I had simply put all of my private stuff over in GitLab instead. For folks like me, this will result in no external change. Just a question of where I stash stuff.

Yep, it makes sense. I think this is why it was an easy decision for them. GitHub does not want developers getting cozy with Gitlab/Bitbucket, even for personal projects, because then those developers will start to push the companies they work for towards those same providers.

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Post by Latteland »

sonnyblarney wrote: post #537
xapata wrote: post #496

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, Microsoft realized that long ago. Gates and Balmer prolonged the inevitable through monopoly power, but Nadella has accepted the future and is "turning the aircraft carrier." It's amazing that Microsoft came back to life from being a zombie company. In hindsight, it was such a large zombie that it had sufficient time to change business models. Somehow Sears wasn't. There's a business school case study and tenure…

If by 'zombie company' you mean raking in massive amounts of money and growing spectacularly every year? [1] MSFT has changed in some positive ways, but since Satya took over, growth has been actually flat-ish to negative overall until 2018 (a good year). Paradoxically, MSFT stock was flat during the Ballmer years when there was rock solid consistent growth. The 'new MSFT' things is quite overrated in terms of what i…

When I last worked there and ballmer was running things, he thought he was doing great cause he got more money each year from stupid enterprise agreements with stupid companies. But the innovation was really slow and it was all about increasing the value of what they had, windows. The world was moving on without them.

Satya nadella made a surprising change for Microsoft. If a company is going to last long term they have to do more than look at their own navels. You can't just focus on squeezing more money out of your existing lemons.

Happening now at Apple?

Re: Announcing unlimited free private repos

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Post by techntoke »

octopoc wrote: post #438
nickjj wrote: post #417

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Their documentation seemed weird. It seemed like if you wanted to self-host your own CI builder with their agent, it was still limited to 1 parallel build on their free plan? Is that true? With Gitlab, if you bring your own runner, there's no limitation like that AFAIK (I've never done this yet because I never surpassed 2k build minutes a month) but I glanced their docs.

Yeah, that's annoying. However, there's an undocumented loophole: you can have multiple agents on the same machine and they can all run in parallel even if you didn't buy an extra private pipeline. We recently had a build server with four SSDs, one agent on each, and they could all run in parallel. It worked fine.

Too much trouble when GitLab actually has an open source version. Also AutoDevOps is AMAZING!
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