There goes California's balanced budget.
It's $250mil. CA is not gonna hurt from this in the slightest.
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#12Why should California tax payers provide health insurance to illegal immigrants?
Does helping individuals with their healthcare improve society? Presumably any advocate of government healthcare programs would say that it does. If it does, then why would the legal status of each individual affect the societal improvement?
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#13> "California already covers undocumented children until they turn 19, with Newsom’s plan increasing the age cut-off to mirror that of the Affordable Care Act, which allows young adults to stay on a parent’s health insurance plan until turning 26."
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#14Why should California tax payers provide health insurance to illegal immigrants?
Because the alternative is hospitals treating them anyway and sending out bills that will never get paid - ultimately costing society even more.
Unless you actually think illegal immigrants should just be left to die when they have medical issues? I sure hope not.
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#16Earlier quoted context omitted.
because they provide services that you rely on and do jobs that legal migrants and citizens aren't going to do
Maybe if we could pay citizens fair market price for their labor we wouldn't have to rely on illegal immigrants.
how many citizens and legal migrants do you know are going to work in backbreaking conditions picking the food you eat for minimum wage? Cheap robots haven't caught up yet to pick and grow everything we need. Also note that not everyone can pay whole food prices
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#17Be wary of any healthcare mandate: it’s a device by which major health insurance carriers compel already poor people to sink money into overpriced plans that cover very little and come with numerous strings attached. Between high deductibles and mandatory coinsurance these plans are not coverage: they’re extortion.
it's supposed to be single payer, i.e. govt owned and negotiated rates should be lower than something like obamacare exchanges
Should be.
Obamacare was supposed to "bend the cost curve", too. I haven't seen recent hard data, but my impression is that it didn't work as advertised.
Note well: I have no opinion on whether this idea will in fact work. I'm merely pointing out that one should not take politicians' claims on such matters at face value.
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#18Why should California tax payers provide health insurance to illegal immigrants?
because they provide services that you rely on and do jobs that legal migrants and citizens aren't going to do
So, the fact that these people live in the underworld and generally get mistreated by their employers and paid illegally low wages is a feature to you? Interesting.
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#20Be wary of any healthcare mandate: it’s a device by which major health insurance carriers compel already poor people to sink money into overpriced plans that cover very little and come with numerous strings attached. Between high deductibles and mandatory coinsurance these plans are not coverage: they’re extortion.
it's supposed to be single payer, i.e. govt owned and negotiated rates should be lower than something like obamacare exchanges
If it actually is single a real single payer system, then maybe this is fine, but it’s just as likely that the mandate gets established, but the single payer part fails to materialize.