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Re: Tree Style Tabs

#181
hi, the CSS mentioned here has been serving me well for a while, but since ~month I don't see the RYG buttons anymore. After some experimenting I realized these buttons are rendered only with the native titlebar or with the tabbar. Having toolbar with address, search, etc. and the RYG buttons seems impossible now.

anyone else experiencing this problem?

Re: Tree Style Tabs

#182
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Each instance of firefox has its own context. One is unsafe browsing, one is personal browsing, one is development-related browsing, a la Qubes. I used to have a problem with messy, unnavigable bookmarks so now I keep my bookmarks lean and rely on tabs to hold pages I may only need for a month or two at most. It's pretty quick to navigate to a tab with Ctrl+L

How do you create different "instances" of Firefox on the desktop? Or are you just talking about different windows?

I run a hypervisor OS and all of my work is done in contextual VMs, which each run their own instance of Firefox.

Re: Tree Style Tabs

#183
I used to be a heavy TST user, but lately I've gone in the exact opposite direction. I now use Max Tabs[0] to limit how many I can have open at a time.

It works wonders for my focus, and I find that whenever I sigh and have to close tabs to open a new one I need, I can easily find ones I didn't really need.

If you're curious, no, it doesn't count pinned tabs-- so any web apps you like to keep open won't count against your limit.

0: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/max-tabs-web-...

Re: Tree Style Tabs

#184

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This happens to me too. TST seems to currently be riddled with all kinds of unusual bugs that only crop up occasionally. Workarounds: Sometimes keyboard shortcuts still work when mouse interaction doesn't. Other times closing then opening the side panel again causes TST to stabilize it's state.

I'm kind of curious what browser and OS version you and the other user are running. I'm running Firefox Nightly, which is version 66 at this point with tree style tabs 2.7.9 on auto update on linux 4.19 with intel/nvidia gpu drivers. I've never seen any issues just tree style tabs but note I only have 5 extensions at this point. I was wondering if it was an issue with a particular platform or interaction between mult…

Firefox 64, MacOS 10.14

I've noticed bugs such as the new tab button stops working (command-t still works though), child tabs not being promoted to top-level tabs when their parent is closed and a few other strange cases of tree state corruption. Particularly it sometimes happens when dragging tabs around to reparent them, although I haven't been able to nail down any concrete rhyme or reason to it. My other extensions are umatrix, ublock origin and tampermonkey, I don't think there is any strange extension interaction going on.

Despite all of this, TST is still too useful to not use.

Re: Tree Style Tabs

#185

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What vertical tabs allow you to do is forgo tab management all together. With vertical tabs, you never really close a tab, but instead, you keep working on the small subset of tabs you opened most recently. Because they are in a vertical space, even though you have a hundred tabs open, the titles of the 5 or so tabs you are working on are as easily visible as they would be if they were the only open tabs. OTOH, with…

Firefox doesn't behave as you've described -- I've got 27 tabs opened at the moment (probably the lowest count for months) and only 22 are on-screen, the rest have scrolled off to the left. All have enough context left in them for me to be fairly sure what they are. And if I do want to look at them all, there's a handy drop-down to the right of the tab bar which will show them all in a vertical list. Although I often…

No, you're right. The comment you're replying to is specific to Chrome. Firefox behaves as you describe, though personally I still strongly prefer TST's behavior; it's a substantial further improvement over Firefox's default setup. Especially when you add in container tabs, and the ability to prefix url bar searches with % to search through your open tabs.

Some people seem to strongly prefer Chrome's behavior. The only advantage I can see is that it forcibly prevents your tab count from getting out of hand.

Re: Tree Style Tabs

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It's odd that so many people confuse the roles of tabs and bookmarks. Perhaps it's a sign that the bookmark UX isn't good (or prevalent) enough. I generally have four pinned tabs open for email, Slack and Trello, plus another five related to what I'm working on.

I'm not confusing anything. Tabs let me switch to different projects incredibly quickly. Bookmarks just don't work.

There were some nice Firefox extensions that supported bookmarking and reloading tab trees. Bookmarking a tree would result in folders, so the whole structure was preserved.

Bookmarks can definitely work, but yeah, a flat list can't. I think a better approach would be something like a mind-map.

Re: Tree Style Tabs

#189

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I'm kind of curious what browser and OS version you and the other user are running. I'm running Firefox Nightly, which is version 66 at this point with tree style tabs 2.7.9 on auto update on linux 4.19 with intel/nvidia gpu drivers. I've never seen any issues just tree style tabs but note I only have 5 extensions at this point. I was wondering if it was an issue with a particular platform or interaction between mult…

Firefox 64, MacOS 10.14 I've noticed bugs such as the new tab button stops working (command-t still works though), child tabs not being promoted to top-level tabs when their parent is closed and a few other strange cases of tree state corruption. Particularly it sometimes happens when dragging tabs around to reparent them, although I haven't been able to nail down any concrete rhyme or reason to it. My other extensio…

I'm kind of curious if the other user also uses mac and its an issue that firefox needs better mac support. I recall in a similar thread on hacker news others recounting having had a bad experience with firefox on mac.

Have you tried submitting a bug report to the author of TST maybe they don't have a mac and could use more feedback.

Re: Tree Style Tabs

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I use TST extensively to manage hundreds of tabs, and it is a real joy. FWIW, these are the customizations that made TST much more usable for me: 1) Very importantly, hide the horizontal tab bar. You get some vertical screen space back, and you aren't distracted by two ways of showing the same tabs. You'll have to edit your userChrome.css (see e.g. http://kb.mozillazine.org/index.php?title=UserChrome.css&pri... for d…

I've been trying to wrangle the top bar into something manageable for a while, and have landed on this: https://gist.github.com/mnutt/a8ffee69c51a2e150e67acf56692cb... The one thing to watch out for is that Firefox has been changing the structure of their browser chrome recently, and while it has actually gotten easier to style (the three MacOS buttons are now just html elements!) it requires some occasional maintena…

thanks a lot!
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