Announcing unlimited free private repos • Hacker News Board

Re: Announcing unlimited free private repos

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Post by mpweiher » Mon, Jan 07, 2019, 7:40 PM UTC

iambateman wrote: post #190

A lot of people are concerned about the “what if they make me the product since I’m no longer paying.” A few reasons I don’t think that will happen: - private, single contributor repos tend to be pretty small. it costs Github very little to service a single account. - Github is a growing social network for developers. Getting young engineers on the platform for free will pay off handsomely when they join a team and a…

Well, MS corporate culture very much believes it is doing you a favor by mining all your data in order to “serve you better”

Re: Announcing unlimited free private repos

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Post by femto113 » Mon, Jan 07, 2019, 7:42 PM UTC

geezerjay wrote: post #295

moritzplassnig wrote: post #240

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When GitHub's financials got leaked in 2016, GitHub's personal accounts accounted for 12.5% of their revenue. GitHub Enterprise was 50%, their organization (= business) accounts were the remaining 37.5% [1]. It's fair to say that the personal accounts are irrelevant from a revenue perspective. [1] https://medium.com/@moritzplassnig/github-is-doing-much-bett... (disclaimer: I wrote the article but the data is by Bloom…

> It's fair to say that the personal accounts are irrelevant from a revenue perspective. Your assertion can only make sense if you also believe that a 12% paycut is irrelevant to your income.

Revenue != income. It's quite likely the profit margin on developer accounts is lower than the other types, and if this cuts the knees out from under the competition may well be cheaper than, say, paying for advertising.

Re: Announcing unlimited free private repos

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Post by EGreg » Mon, Jan 07, 2019, 7:42 PM UTC

Also I wonder if they will get a lot of accounts continuing to pay because they missed this announcement. Perhaps most!

Re: Announcing unlimited free private repos

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Post by ninkendo » Mon, Jan 07, 2019, 7:42 PM UTC

bovermyer wrote: post #227

Anyone know when this is supposed to be turned on? I'm still seeing the old system/verbiage on the GitHub Billing page.

I just downgraded from pro and the form said I'll be keeping my private repos, so it works for me.

Re: Announcing unlimited free private repos

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Post by sangnoir » Mon, Jan 07, 2019, 7:42 PM UTC

woolvalley wrote: post #297

sangnoir wrote: post #293

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...or else what? Are the developers going to mass-migrate to SourceForge?[1] Github has a lot of leeway/social capital - they are hardcoded into the infrastructure both literally and figuratively. edit: 1. I literally forgot about Gitlab as a Github substitute when I wrote the comment, interpret that as you may.

Bitbucket, gitlab, some other new service that takes advantage of the gap left by mismanagement?

I remembered Gitlab after I posted but before I saw your comment and made an edit. Github has network effects and inertia on its side - switching to any other service has a cost, and Microsoft has to piss off developers enough to justify the switch - moderate annoyances will be tolerated.

Re: Announcing unlimited free private repos

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Post by cgtyoder » Mon, Jan 07, 2019, 7:43 PM UTC

Still amazed that anyone uses this site for more than trivial work, given that this language exists in their TOS:

"GitHub has the right to suspend or terminate your access to all or any part of the Website at any time, with or without cause, with or without notice, effective immediately. GitHub reserves the right to refuse service to anyone for any reason at any time."

Re: Announcing unlimited free private repos

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Post by dpwm » Mon, Jan 07, 2019, 7:43 PM UTC

benatkin wrote: post #281

nafizh wrote: post #226

Earlier quoted context omitted.

LinkedIn might be successful, but its ugliness and spammy nature is in stark contrast with Github.

It's currently in stark contrast with GitHub. I won't be at all surprised if I see in-your-face ads on GitHub in the near future. It's not like there isn't a precedent for it (hello, SourceForge).

I'm not so sure. LinkedIn was always quite spammy.

Sourceforge did some absolutely egregious things, including bundling adware with windows binaries.

Maybe the people at Microsoft don't know it, but one of the reasons GitHub has such a huge market share is because it hasn't done any of those things.

Sure, MS could have bought it to use its reputation as capital and try and maximise income at all costs. It seems that would be somewhat counterproductive, given the long process Microsoft has gone through to start fixing its image with developers.

Re: Announcing unlimited free private repos

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Post by cptskippy » Mon, Jan 07, 2019, 7:43 PM UTC

benatkin wrote: post #281

nafizh wrote: post #226

Earlier quoted context omitted.

LinkedIn might be successful, but its ugliness and spammy nature is in stark contrast with Github.

It's currently in stark contrast with GitHub. I won't be at all surprised if I see in-your-face ads on GitHub in the near future. It's not like there isn't a precedent for it (hello, SourceForge).

The difference is that LinkedIn was creepy before Microsoft bought it and it has nothing to do with Ads. LinkedIn is and always has been creepy and sleezy because it's a relationship networking tool and not a platform for work or collaboration. Whenever I used LinkedIn, it always gave me the same feeling I get when talking to a Salesman or Recruiter, that I'm being exploited and they're trying to convince me that it's somehow to my benefit to work with them or go along with what they say.

Re: Announcing unlimited free private repos

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Post by fharding » Mon, Jan 07, 2019, 7:44 PM UTC

iambateman wrote: post #190

A lot of people are concerned about the “what if they make me the product since I’m no longer paying.” A few reasons I don’t think that will happen: - private, single contributor repos tend to be pretty small. it costs Github very little to service a single account. - Github is a growing social network for developers. Getting young engineers on the platform for free will pay off handsomely when they join a team and a…

> Getting young engineers on the platform for free will pay off handsomely when they join a team and automatically assume Github is their code storage tool of choice.

Github student pack was already a thing. https://education.github.com/pack

Re: Announcing unlimited free private repos

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Post by slimsag » Mon, Jan 07, 2019, 7:45 PM UTC

foepys wrote: post #193

bovermyer wrote: post #125

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...that sounds suspiciously like you're storing binaries in git.

Git LFS can take care of that.

In GitHub's case, only if you're willing to pay for the bandwidth... something which I am currently struggling with in regards to open source projects needing binaries in-repo..