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I think the thing I realized (and obviously n=1) is there's no longer a single apple product I recommend to friends and family.

A new iPhone xr with a storage bump and a good charger is over $1k with tax. A MacBook air is similarly $1600 plus with 256g and a warranty and tax.

There are perfectly serviceable 500 Androids and $750 windows laptops. Apple's software isn't good enough to double the price.

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> Apple seems to have underestimated iPhone SE demand to a significant degree I would love to purchase a new iPhone (or Android) if they were to make a new device with a comparable form factor to the SE. Instead, everything has progressed to these two-handed monstrosities that have resulted in fanny packs [1] becoming fashionable again simply to hold the damn things. [1] https://www.today.com/style/fanny-packs-are-so…

Last month, a Redditor explained why the SE form factor likely won't be returning.

https://www.reddit.com/r/apple/comments/a68a1v/we_get_it_you...

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The price is a big factor. Yes , people will buy the luxury phone , because there is a demand for that but it’s limited. Governments of so many counties spending so much money to financially educate people. They are not that stupid. I was going to do an upgrade , when XS and XS Max price was announced I was thinking that’s too much I’ll just buy the 1 y.o. iPhone X and that’s it. Instead they pushed “budget” $800 phone. Phones are going from specs competition back to normal branding and appealing. Means there will be strong resistance to buy not premium phone for premium price. They raise the price since 2 y.o. iPhone 7 almost 2 times. iPhone 7 was the premium device for the same price as XR. The main mistake they did is abandon iPhone X. They should release iPhone X , XR could be iPhone X hardware with non OLED screen , and price lower then X , that would stimulate the demand. Instead I will wait for the next year to switch to relatively new borderless form factor. And first time ever I’m checking what’s Samsung i going to present. I’m just not that stupid to spent $1,500 for smartphone even premium one , also not going to spent $800 for outdated XR. The main benefit of new iPhones is borderless trend introduced by Xiaomi 3 years ago. With outdated screen the benefits of this solution are zeroed. That’s actually why iPhone 8 lineup also failed. It’s not borderless. Instead of stimulating the biggest reason to upgrade Apple locked it with extreme pricing and not leveraging biggest trend for 3 years. Only premium segment of Apple products got this trend.

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> Apple seems to have underestimated iPhone SE demand to a significant degree I would love to purchase a new iPhone (or Android) if they were to make a new device with a comparable form factor to the SE. Instead, everything has progressed to these two-handed monstrosities that have resulted in fanny packs [1] becoming fashionable again simply to hold the damn things. [1] https://www.today.com/style/fanny-packs-are-so…

I don't know what phone I am going to get after my iPhone SE no longer works after OS bloat kicks in. It's the perfect phone pretty much. I like android better but I can't find a phone this size that works in the android universe. Surely there must be others like me that want a capable phone that isn't the size of a tablet?

I’ve seen others reference the Sony Xperia Z2 compact as a SE replacement but even that phone has a 5” screen.

At this rate it seems like the smartphone market has abandoned small form factor phones.

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> Apple seems to have underestimated iPhone SE demand to a significant degree I would love to purchase a new iPhone (or Android) if they were to make a new device with a comparable form factor to the SE. Instead, everything has progressed to these two-handed monstrosities that have resulted in fanny packs [1] becoming fashionable again simply to hold the damn things. [1] https://www.today.com/style/fanny-packs-are-so…

I used to think the same and didn't like the move to the larger phones. Harder to use with one hand, more bulky to carry around.

But then I fired up my old iPhone 5 and quickly appreciated the larger screen of the iPhone 8. Although I still like holding the smaller one better.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't know what phone I am going to get after my iPhone SE no longer works after OS bloat kicks in. It's the perfect phone pretty much. I like android better but I can't find a phone this size that works in the android universe. Surely there must be others like me that want a capable phone that isn't the size of a tablet?

I’ve seen others reference the Sony Xperia Z2 compact as a SE replacement but even that phone has a 5” screen. At this rate it seems like the smartphone market has abandoned small form factor phones.

The X2 is two years older than the iPhone SE and the successor (Z3) is 45% larger. I'm not sure how anyone can reasonably conclude it's a replacement.

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> Apple seems to have underestimated iPhone SE demand to a significant degree I would love to purchase a new iPhone (or Android) if they were to make a new device with a comparable form factor to the SE. Instead, everything has progressed to these two-handed monstrosities that have resulted in fanny packs [1] becoming fashionable again simply to hold the damn things. [1] https://www.today.com/style/fanny-packs-are-so…

Last month, a Redditor explained why the SE form factor likely won't be returning. https://www.reddit.com/r/apple/comments/a68a1v/we_get_it_you...

Larger screens tend to lead to people to use their phones more, which results in more app purchases[0]. (which results in more money being made in Apple's services division). It's a way to offset the decrease in new phone sales.

[0] https://www.wsj.com/articles/apple-banks-on-bigger-screens-t...

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I was already skeptical in general of articles about Apple doom -- we've seen those for decades. This year, I'm extra suspicious of any articles that lead with a chart of Apple stock, without showing for comparison the stock market overall. Every company is suffering right now. AMZN, MSFT, FB, NFLX, and GOOG are all down 20-40% from their respective peaks 3 months ago, yet nobody seems to see reason to write articles…

I suspect you haven't read the article and stopped after glancing at the first graph. While the graph was, as you say, without context, the point was to illustrate numerous other stock hits due to iPhone misses.

No, I never comment without reading the article.

But it strikes me as no different from any other divination. If it's true that "these errors really were predictable", why are they writing only after the fact, and why only about Apple?

Every time a stock goes up, down, or stays level, journalists and bloggers come up with some justification for it, and say that it was obvious in hindsight. It's usually plausible, but if it's so obvious, why can't they ever predict it?

If in Apple's case it's all because of product/market issues with the iPhone line, then why does it happen to correlate almost exactly with the Dow losses? Is this really an Apple error at all? Is Apple failing because they can't weather the same storm as everyone else without even getting wet?

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I think the thing I realized (and obviously n=1) is there's no longer a single apple product I recommend to friends and family. A new iPhone xr with a storage bump and a good charger is over $1k with tax. A MacBook air is similarly $1600 plus with 256g and a warranty and tax. There are perfectly serviceable 500 Androids and $750 windows laptops. Apple's software isn't good enough to double the price.

I only recommend Apple stuff to relatives because they can go to a store when they need help. I wish companies like Google, HP, Dell, Samsung, and any other big consumer tech companies would open their own stores.

A secondary reason is that I still think Apple has a pretty big advantage when it comes to security and privacy. When you see Google starting to push RCS messaging with no default encryption you realize how little they really care about their user's privacy.

That said, the only Apple hardware I own is an iPad.

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