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Record Numbers of Americans Want to Leave the U.S

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Re: Record Numbers of Americans Want to Leave the U.S

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Post by AnthonyMouse »

the_watcher wrote: post #45
maxerickson wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Federal healthcare spending is much larger than military spending: https://media.nationalpriorities.org/uploads/total_spending_... (from https://www.nationalpriorities.org/budget-basics/federal-bud... ) It's unfortunate the chart includes social security, which isn't quite tax and spend the way most of the rest of the federal budget is.

To most people, Social Security is seen as a tax, since it comes out of your paycheck in the form of a "Social Security Tax".

It's also an unusually regressive tax, because it's flat rate, which isn't that bad if what it funds is progressively delivered (i.e. paid out the same to everyone rather than based on how much income you had), but it isn't. And then on top of that there is an income cap above which you don't pay any more.

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IncRnd wrote: post #52
wil421 wrote: post #29

>These results are based on telephone interviews with approximately 1,000 adults per year, aged 15 and older, conducted in the U.S. They only asked 1,000 adults via phone calls? Pretty small survey but I’m not a statistician. Edit: Downvoters. Please comment. Was the survey larger? Is 1,000 a large enough sample size to make conclusions about the whole US? This is HN please engage.

There also is low quality of respondents in addition to low quantity. I don't really think that 15 is adult...

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Post by greesil »

skh wrote: post #16

Ultimately this indicates that people aren’t satisfied with the returns on taxation. I’m all for supporting a government that supports the people. From my perspective we don’t have this and haven’t had it for some time. Other developed nations have better infrastructure, better social support system, near free higher education, free at point of contact healthcare systems. What we get in the U.S. is the most advanced…

I agree that we don't get a good return on the taxes we pay. But, defense spending is about 1/6 of the federal budget at around 3% of GDP. For comparison medicare/medicaid combined is about 5% of GDP. Apparently France spends 4% of GDP on healthcare total, not just for old people. I think the biggest problem with our system is not necessarily that defense spending is so high, but that our healthcare system is so inefficient.

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Post by akhilcacharya »

azinman2 wrote: post #19
lkrubner wrote: post #14

A truly incredible statistic: “ 40% of women younger than 30 would like to leave the U.S. ” That says a lot about the extent to which Trump has alienated young women.

That number seems extremely suspect. If that were really true, it would bubble about culturally in all kinds of ways.

Record turnout at the women’s marches and the midterms seem like a good indicator.

Wouldn’t surprise me if the question response was just hyperbole from the answerer.

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Post by alpinewinter »

sgjohnson wrote: post #34
skh wrote: post #16

Ultimately this indicates that people aren’t satisfied with the returns on taxation. I’m all for supporting a government that supports the people. From my perspective we don’t have this and haven’t had it for some time. Other developed nations have better infrastructure, better social support system, near free higher education, free at point of contact healthcare systems. What we get in the U.S. is the most advanced…

Israel’s warfare system is far more advanced than the US. Paid for by the US taxpayer of course.

I disagree. I'm sure they have some cool toys, but they are not even in the same league in terms of overall military capability as the US. Their military is very specialized to deal with their specific circumstances. The US can conduct full-scale warfare anywhere around the globe, in the air, sea, on land, or in near-earth orbit.

Re: Record Numbers of Americans Want to Leave the U.S

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Post by benmarten »

skh wrote: post #16

Ultimately this indicates that people aren’t satisfied with the returns on taxation. I’m all for supporting a government that supports the people. From my perspective we don’t have this and haven’t had it for some time. Other developed nations have better infrastructure, better social support system, near free higher education, free at point of contact healthcare systems. What we get in the U.S. is the most advanced…

I disagree for the opportunities we have here and the amount of taxes we pay it's pretty great!

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Post by smoothyface »

I have a genuine question for people who want to leave the US because of Trump:

Is your life actually any different since he's been elected (minus constant media coverage)? I have to say, mine isn't at all. He's barely accomplished anything that's had an impact on our lives yet people are still so upset about him becoming president that they want to move to another country. Can anyone give concrete examples of his policy decisions that have had a negative enough impact on their life that they would relocate to another country?

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