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Re: Thank u, next

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Thanks! To be clear, the doc work was my job, but the evangelizing wasn't. I plan on continuing both, as much as time allows.

Would it be possible to crowdfund that role? People on youtube apparently earn a living by making videos in which they film themselves watching other youtube videos, so it ought to be possible :)

Maybe! I'm not sure I have the kind of skills needed to do such a thing.

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> I recently discovered I’m the lowest-paid person on my team

This is probably what really is behind all this. The rest is just dressing up his hurt feelings.

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Mozilla isn't a monolith. Like most medium and large organizations, your experience can vary greatly between teams and management chains. If Mozilla's mission and manifesto resonate with you, give it a shot. With Microsoft throwing their weight behind Chromium, we're the last bastion standing against a WebKit-derived monoculture. It's an impossible challenge, but it matters , and we've beaten the odds before. Current…

> Mozilla isn't a monolith. Like most medium and large organizations, your experience can vary greatly between teams and management chains. That sounds like part of the problem. Mozilla shouldn't "vary greatly between teams and management chains" like it's some fossilized megacorp -- that's for the Oracle's of this world. It should be a nimble and efficient non-profit style organization.

Yeah, that's what bothers me. They get hundreds of millions of dollars a year and they still manage to act like a cash-starved corporation.

1) "Can't afford" the development time to allow me to customize keyboard shortcuts. They deprecated the old functionality and replaced with a limited "oh, extensions can do that, but they only take effect after the page has loaded." Super Metroid had that in 1992 for the SNES.

2) No unsigned extensions because of a phantom "security risk". Not even if you enable it in an obscure part of the config. Geez, if I can't modify my own open-source software, what's the point? You might as well shrink-wrap Firefox and make me get it from Microsoft at Best Buy! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=taGARf8K5J8

3) Mr. Robot marketing integration, where the marketing was so important that they got to override reasonable concerns about "gee, do you really think we should force an add-on for a security update that has a cryptic message in its description?"

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With regards to Fuchsia it's not really much new in OS design: a microkernel with the same old issues of each 'component' being a server and the complexity it entails.

If I could work on an operating system it would be something like http://www.barrelfish.org/ but with a few big changes.

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post #79

This is a bummer on many levels, but also personally, a bit of a relief. For a while I was considering going all-in to try to get a role at Mozilla. I really believe in their mission, and I drink the kool-aid when it comes to the browser market getting gobbled up. What held me back at the time were the company reviews. The culture sounds toxic, and the management sounds incompetent, and there's no force of change tha…

I never knew Mozilla had a toxic culture. Could you expand on this (or any other former Mozilla employees attest to this)?

I haven't worked there so I don't want to go into detail as it would all be hearsay. I based this on some research I had done before considering a role there. I mainly read online, posts by former employees, and glassdoor reviews.

Re: Thank u, next

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Mozilla isn't a monolith. Like most medium and large organizations, your experience can vary greatly between teams and management chains. If Mozilla's mission and manifesto resonate with you, give it a shot. With Microsoft throwing their weight behind Chromium, we're the last bastion standing against a WebKit-derived monoculture. It's an impossible challenge, but it matters , and we've beaten the odds before. Current…

That's the problem though. From the outside, there's no way to know if you're going to end up in the "good" part of the company or not. Sure, you can do your best to screen the company, but it's not too hard in the short interview process to mask a lot of the warts. You could say this is true at any company, but it feels like more of a problem when comparing a company with lots of really good reviews/testimonials to…

> From the outside, there's no way to know if you're going to end up in the "good" part of the company or not.

I think this is a serious problem in all sorts of fields, and I've never heard of a good answer. Sometimes Glassdoor is enough to get impressions like "healthy devops team, unhealthy frontend and sales teams", but with companies where the same job title appears on many teams it's even harder to sort out. I suspect you're right that it's a significant reason for word-of-mouth job searches; they're a candidate's best form of diligence.

It definitely cuts both ways, too - no matter what the prevailing culture a large company is likely to have teams out of sync with it. Places like Uber and Riot Games that make the news for bad culture have teams who aren't exposed to that stuff, and on the other side we've all heard stories of localized tyranny and incompetence within otherwise-great companies.

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> I started working at 15, when I took a job as a pizza cook. Over the next seven years, I moved up the ranks, to a driver, shift manager, and then as part of the “new store opening team.”

Driver is up the ranks from cook? I don't know why, but I always assumed that it was the other way around.

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That's the problem though. From the outside, there's no way to know if you're going to end up in the "good" part of the company or not. Sure, you can do your best to screen the company, but it's not too hard in the short interview process to mask a lot of the warts. You could say this is true at any company, but it feels like more of a problem when comparing a company with lots of really good reviews/testimonials to…

> From the outside, there's no way to know if you're going to end up in the "good" part of the company or not. I think this is a serious problem in all sorts of fields, and I've never heard of a good answer. Sometimes Glassdoor is enough to get impressions like "healthy devops team, unhealthy frontend and sales teams", but with companies where the same job title appears on many teams it's even harder to sort out. I s…

Yeah, personally, when I am trying to find this out if I'm speaking with a current employee who is on the team I would be working for, I try to drill down to see if problems are related to poor middle management (a single bad manager can destroy an entire team and any team that is connected to it), or whether it's endemic in the culture, which is harder to suss out, but is usually something you can infer when asking about over-arching company strategy and how plans get executed from the top down.

Re: Thank u, next

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Steve,

I don't know you but I wish I did.

You seem like one of those really lighthearted folks that make everything better in life. From reading your answers on IRC and Hacker News, You are always humble and eager to provide answers. When confronted with arrogance and ignorance on several replies here, You reacted with facts and without ever taking the conversation in an impolite manner.

You see, one thing I believe is the cancer of our current line of work (tech) is the notion that we must obey blindly to some kind of savior or master, and that we have to put up with the masters' erratic and disrespectful behavior, for he is the 'bringer of the vision' to us not-as-enlightened folk. We don't need to put names but several come to mind when it comes to FOSS and stuff, right? In your case, I consider you a true master, for that you encourage collaboration without ever being uncouth to others just because of a position of power.

Your honesty and kindness shines specially in your post regarding Mozilla. You are one of those people that are able to talk "uncomfortable stuff" without making people reading it uncomfortable.

Thank you for being an awesome leader and I hope to read more and more of your answers and informational posts here, take it from the unknown no-names of the Internet like me: you are doing it right and being like this is gonna keep making people gravitate towards your works throughout your life.

May you multiply your ability of connect people with your heart, a skill which is much lacking in the current world of ever greater egos.

o/

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#120
post #74

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> I also thought his work in evangelizing Rust on HN, Reddit and a million other places was hugely important, and a big part of why there's a lot of positive buzz around the language. Yeah. As someone working in Scala I honestly think I'm in the right language technically, but I wish we had even half the community spirit that Rust does, and Klabnik is a huge part of that.

Agreed. BTW, have you looked Scala/Rust interop? Both languages are ML-style languages, so they are close in spirit.

I don't really see much opportunity for interop beyond the dog-slow JNI and C-style interfaces. Sure, you probably can do that, but it would be fairly exceptional situation where it would make sense, especially as afaik Scala has pretty decent perf by itself
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