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#2I've interacted with Steve a few times on the Rust IRC channel and he's always been super awesome and helpful. He's also been very receptive to feedback on the Rust documentation and helped me to contribute to it.
Thanks for all your hard work on Rust, Steve, and good luck with the future!
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#3I want to say from his past blog posts- Steve is a very thoughtful writer. And from all my online interactions in comments- a very respectful person.
Knowing him (whatever little) things must be really frustrating for him to call Mozilla out in public.
Rust is what it is- not because its an amazingly well designed language - lots of languages are very well designed Haskell, f#, Scala. But Rust has a very public development and Steve has been great at managing the public aspect.
I sincerely hope Steve takes a public facing role again.
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#4> A company that thinks they can take webassembly (and their product built on it) to the next level
Epic? Unreal Engine was one of the first 3D engines with WASM output, and if you thought you'd never work at a payments company and loved it, you might enjoy gamedev (or gamedevdev in this case). Also Raleigh NC is a nice place to live.
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#5Mozilla sounds like your average PHB-led corporation.
This is also one of the reasons I'm skeptical about Rust, since Mozilla is the backbone of Rust development. They don't strike me as an organisation that can shepherd a programming language long term and with their market share taking a nose dive they're bound to get even more desperate and cut non-essential projects or make new data-sharing partnerships.
Anyways, good luck on your next adventure. Based on your work, you don't deserve to be the lowest paid in the team...
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#6I'm surprised and disappointed to learn that Mozilla didn't value Steve's work enough. The documentation, especially the book [1] which he authored, is the gold standard that every software project should aspire to. As someone who learned the language recently, it's possible that I might have abandoned it if the documentation and learning materials hadn't been so good.
I also thought his work in evangelizing Rust on HN, Reddit and a million other places was hugely important, and a big part of why there's a lot of positive buzz around the language. Steve, I do hope you'll find the time to continue at least a part of this work, because I think it's vital for the success of Rust.
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#7I'm surprised and disappointed to learn that Mozilla didn't value Steve's work enough. The documentation, especially the book [1] which he authored, is the gold standard that every software project should aspire to. As someone who learned the language recently, it's possible that I might have abandoned it if the documentation and learning materials hadn't been so good. I also thought his work in evangelizing Rust on…
i think the point he's making in that post is he does have the time, and more importantly the passion and will to do so. the compensation he was receiving for having to work at a large org wasn't fair, and that's why he's changing directions.
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#8> A company that thinks they can take webassembly (and their product built on it) to the next level Epic? Unreal Engine was one of the first 3D engines with WASM output, and if you thought you'd never work at a payments company and loved it, you might enjoy gamedev (or gamedevdev in this case). Also Raleigh NC is a nice place to live.
Raleigh’s nice. I grew up and went to school in Raleigh.
It’s not nice enough to move cross country.
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#9I'm surprised and disappointed to learn that Mozilla didn't value Steve's work enough. The documentation, especially the book [1] which he authored, is the gold standard that every software project should aspire to. As someone who learned the language recently, it's possible that I might have abandoned it if the documentation and learning materials hadn't been so good. I also thought his work in evangelizing Rust on…
i think the point he's making in that post is he does have the time, and more importantly the passion and will to do so. the compensation he was receiving for having to work at a large org wasn't fair, and that's why he's changing directions.
Are there companies (outside of Mozilla) that would hire (or at least pay) someone like that to keep working on Rust and its documentation? These people are too important to not pay enough. I know it's perceived to be the price you pay if you work for a foundation like Mozilla (or open source software), but it's not fair.
I've seen a guy who worked full time on open source have a Patreon, which had a few big sponsors that would pay / donate $5K or $10k / month - that's another good option IMO. Although I'd donate it directly to him, instead of having Patreon scoop off their share.
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#10I'd be interested to know more about what disenchanted him -- if he's willing/able to share, of course -- from Mozilla, besides what he briefly mentioned regarding pay and opportunity. I can understand the need to move on from a position that is no longer of interest, but are there "political" reasons? He hints at incidents, for example.