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The Phone That’s Failing Apple: iPhone XR

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Re: The Phone That’s Failing Apple: iPhone XR

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Post by pdimitar »

Or maybe the Asian market is not riding the display 's notch hype train? They might view the notch + the high price as opposing factors (I once heard a guy say "why would you pay so much for a phone with a screen that's cut on several places?"). Food for thought.

I bought the X because I wanted an OLED screen iPhone. And I was digging the less bezels. The notch however is irritating me to this day, 14 months in. And the non-rectangular screen (with unconventional aspect ratio) has been an annoyance when watching videos or when playing games.

It's even more absurd seeing how many Android OEMs followed suit with the notch. Seriously though: 3-4mm on the top and 2mm on the bottom is alright. There were phones with slightly larger top/bottom bezels than these and they still managed to even have dual front-facing speakers as well.

We need marketing people who have common sense, not those who try and imitate their way to success.

Re: The Phone That’s Failing Apple: iPhone XR

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Post by 0x0 »

threeseed wrote: post #6
protomyth wrote: post #5

I cannot help but think that an iPhone XR mini would have been a great seller if it hit the $450 range. I just don't understand Apple these days, its like they have reverted to the early 90's where they kept jacking the price until even the loyal customers had to exit the ship. I had so believed they would repeat the iPod strategy and start at the top end and slowly squeeze the market by introducing models that fille…

I don't understand why people are so confused on this. Apple ships models that fill the lower price brands. It is the iPhone 7 and iPhone 8 which are still supported and being sold.

Buying iPhone 7 or 8, ie a one or two year old phone, practically guarantees that you'll hit the end of the road with iOS major version update availability one or two years earlier, which means you'll have to buy a new phone one or two years earlier. Not sure if the $100 or so that you save is worth losing a year of updates. In other words - adding $100 or so buys you a whole 'nother year or two of usage on your current purchase.

If they offered new phones for a lower price but with the software update support lifetime that matches the flagship phones, then they might have a killer product!

Re: The Phone That’s Failing Apple: iPhone XR

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Post by lostlogin »

throw0u1t wrote: post #8
threeseed wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't understand why people are so confused on this. Apple ships models that fill the lower price brands. It is the iPhone 7 and iPhone 8 which are still supported and being sold.

But I don't want an iPhone 7 or an 8. And it makes no sense that Apple sell both the 7 and the 8. Apple should make a phone like the SE which is made for the low-mid market, not just discount its old models.

I’d take a high spec small phone. This is apparently an unusual thing to want.

Re: The Phone That’s Failing Apple: iPhone XR

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Post by pazimzadeh »

threeseed wrote: post #6
protomyth wrote: post #5

I cannot help but think that an iPhone XR mini would have been a great seller if it hit the $450 range. I just don't understand Apple these days, its like they have reverted to the early 90's where they kept jacking the price until even the loyal customers had to exit the ship. I had so believed they would repeat the iPod strategy and start at the top end and slowly squeeze the market by introducing models that fille…

I don't understand why people are so confused on this. Apple ships models that fill the lower price brands. It is the iPhone 7 and iPhone 8 which are still supported and being sold.

"mini" meaning smaller form factor. I'm not upgrading from my SE until they release a mini.

Re: The Phone That’s Failing Apple: iPhone XR

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Post by paulcole »

throw0u1t wrote: post #8
threeseed wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't understand why people are so confused on this. Apple ships models that fill the lower price brands. It is the iPhone 7 and iPhone 8 which are still supported and being sold.

But I don't want an iPhone 7 or an 8. And it makes no sense that Apple sell both the 7 and the 8. Apple should make a phone like the SE which is made for the low-mid market, not just discount its old models.

I think The Rolling Stones put it best...

Re: The Phone That’s Failing Apple: iPhone XR

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Post by zozbot123 »

threeseed wrote: post #6
protomyth wrote: post #5

I cannot help but think that an iPhone XR mini would have been a great seller if it hit the $450 range. I just don't understand Apple these days, its like they have reverted to the early 90's where they kept jacking the price until even the loyal customers had to exit the ship. I had so believed they would repeat the iPod strategy and start at the top end and slowly squeeze the market by introducing models that fille…

I don't understand why people are so confused on this. Apple ships models that fill the lower price brands. It is the iPhone 7 and iPhone 8 which are still supported and being sold.

> still supported

How long, though? An Apple device is supported for a mere 5 years after release. The iPhone 7 came out in late 2016, so it has 3 years remaining. And unlike Android, once an iOS device goes out of support it stops being able to update apps or install up-to-date versions thereof, because these always require the latest release of iOS... With Android, even if you don't get that OTA update, the apps will still work and you can often install a modded version of the OS that's kept up to date. It's just so much better.

Re: The Phone That’s Failing Apple: iPhone XR

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Post by code_duck »

0x0 wrote: post #12
threeseed wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't understand why people are so confused on this. Apple ships models that fill the lower price brands. It is the iPhone 7 and iPhone 8 which are still supported and being sold.

Buying iPhone 7 or 8, ie a one or two year old phone, practically guarantees that you'll hit the end of the road with iOS major version update availability one or two years earlier, which means you'll have to buy a new phone one or two years earlier. Not sure if the $100 or so that you save is worth losing a year of updates. In other words - adding $100 or so buys you a whole 'nother year or two of usage on your curr…

Apple doesn’t phase out their old hardware that quickly. I’m currently using an iPhone 6 with the latest iOS and no complaints.

Re: The Phone That’s Failing Apple: iPhone XR

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Post by [deleted] »

lostlogin wrote: post #13
throw0u1t wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But I don't want an iPhone 7 or an 8. And it makes no sense that Apple sell both the 7 and the 8. Apple should make a phone like the SE which is made for the low-mid market, not just discount its old models.

I’d take a high spec small phone. This is apparently an unusual thing to want.

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Re: The Phone That’s Failing Apple: iPhone XR

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Post by code_duck »

throw0u1t wrote: post #8
threeseed wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't understand why people are so confused on this. Apple ships models that fill the lower price brands. It is the iPhone 7 and iPhone 8 which are still supported and being sold.

But I don't want an iPhone 7 or an 8. And it makes no sense that Apple sell both the 7 and the 8. Apple should make a phone like the SE which is made for the low-mid market, not just discount its old models.

Why? What’s wrong with an iPhone 7 or 8? Why would you prefer an SE-like model?
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