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Re: Tree Style Tabs

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Post by andrewaylett »

Recent Firefox has a drop-down with a list of all open tabs at the right side of the tab bar; it doesn't do the "tree" at all, but other than that has successfully removed enough of my demand for more that I'm happy. Along with the scrolling tab bar that lets me see at least a few close-by tab titles, it's usable to dozens of tabs at least.

I really don't understand my Chrome-using colleagues who sit perpetually at single-icon-wide tabs and can never find the one they're looking for.

Re: Tree Style Tabs

#152

Post by doliveira »

vfq wrote: post #130
vickychijwani wrote: post #129

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's a similar, though not quite as good, Chrome extension called Sidewise. Unfortunately Chrome itself is not as extensible as Firefox so there are issues in Sidewise, the most glaring being that the list of tabs appears in a separate window and Sidewise snaps its position and layout to match your Chrome window using some heuristics. All that said, just use Firefox. It's a much better experience and after Quantum…

Sidewise... I already tried it, and it is nothing more than a bad hack... I guess we'll never get that. Firefox has worse performance than Chrome and I don't trust Mozilla, so unfortunately using Firefox is not an option for me.

What lead you to trust Google more than Mozilla or even put them in the same level of trustworthiness?

Re: Tree Style Tabs

#153

Post by mmphosis »

nneonneo wrote: post #3

I use TST extensively to manage hundreds of tabs, and it is a real joy. FWIW, these are the customizations that made TST much more usable for me: 1) Very importantly, hide the horizontal tab bar. You get some vertical screen space back, and you aren't distracted by two ways of showing the same tabs. You'll have to edit your userChrome.css (see e.g. http://kb.mozillazine.org/index.php?title=UserChrome.css&pri... for d…

Thanks so much for this. It feels like I've got some of the browser back. I avoid using tabs, I have them mostly disabled by default. This frees up the screen space taken away many years ago. This bit of chrome gives me the equivilent of the missing menu item: View > Toolbars > Hide Tab Bar

  ~/.mozilla/firefox/*.default/chrome/userChrome.css

  @namespace url("http://www.mozilla.org/keymaster/gatekeeper/there.is.only.xul"); /* set default namespace to XUL */

  /* https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18836189 */
  /* Hide tab bar in FF Quantum */
  @-moz-document url("chrome://browser/content/browser.xul") {
    #TabsToolbar {
      visibility: collapse !important;
      margin-bottom: 21px !important;
    }

    #sidebar-box[sidebarcommand="treestyletab_piro_sakura_ne_jp-sidebar-action"] #sidebar-header {
      visibility: collapse !important;
    }
  }

Re: Tree Style Tabs

#154

Post by progval »

ttsda wrote: post #114

I've been using TST for many years and it's really the killer feature that keeps bringing me back to firefox. For those running on older machines who still like having a big tab hierarchy with stuff to check later, there's the "Auto Tab Discard" [1] extension which will discard older tabs from memory while keeping the tab itself, with optional exceptions for pinned tabs, tabs with filled forms, ... Unfortunately ther…

> biggest culprit being Facebook which is completely unusable on my 2014 MBP through Firefox

I use the mobile version [1] for this reason (and also because it works with JS disabled). It's as fast as it could get, and most of the useful features are available.

[1] https://m.facebook.com/

Re: Tree Style Tabs

#155

Post by vfq »

doliveira wrote: post #152
vfq wrote: post #130

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sidewise... I already tried it, and it is nothing more than a bad hack... I guess we'll never get that. Firefox has worse performance than Chrome and I don't trust Mozilla, so unfortunately using Firefox is not an option for me.

What lead you to trust Google more than Mozilla or even put them in the same level of trustworthiness?

The decisions taken by the Mozilla Corporation for the past years make them look like they've completely lost control of themselves. I don't feel like I can trust them at all. I don't want to know what they are going to pull off next week, so I've decided they won't execute any more code on my machine.

Re: Tree Style Tabs

#157

Post by NicoJuicy »

zhte415 wrote: post #44
TylerE wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

and I don't understand how people have more than about 10 tabs and stay sane. Do you people like... not use bookmarks at all? Heck, most of the sites I visit on anything like a regular basis I only need to type in the first letter or two and they auto-complete.

I don't use bookmarks. Tabs are for things I want to read today or at least as long as the browser session's open (could be multi-day, but all in a chain of thought). If I don't get round to them I let them die under the justification "couldn't have been important enough" rather than carry baggage. I have a personal wiki where I save links together with self-made notes and links/references associated with it. This pr…

I created handlr.Sapico.me as something like HN with tags to keep bookmarks

Re: Tree Style Tabs

#158

Post by dredmorbius »

chongli wrote: post #83
TylerE wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

and I don't understand how people have more than about 10 tabs and stay sane. Do you people like... not use bookmarks at all? Heck, most of the sites I visit on anything like a regular basis I only need to type in the first letter or two and they auto-complete.

Bookmarks are not a good UX. They're slow to load, unreliable (link rot), and a chore to keep organized. Bookmarks are an improvement over writing addresses down on paper or copying and pasting into a text file. That's about it.

Unfortunately, with auto-refresh on webpages, I've had tabs rot on me more than once.

Re: Tree Style Tabs

#159

Post by dredmorbius »

CharlesW wrote: post #131

For folks using Chrome, check out Tabs Outliner if you like This Sort Of Thing™. I can't imagine using Chrome without it. https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/tabs-outliner/eggk...

Pale, buggy, and nagware implementation.

Use the true original instead.

Re: Tree Style Tabs

#160

Post by chrismorgan »

RaptorJ wrote: post #145
nneonneo wrote: post #3

I use TST extensively to manage hundreds of tabs, and it is a real joy. FWIW, these are the customizations that made TST much more usable for me: 1) Very importantly, hide the horizontal tab bar. You get some vertical screen space back, and you aren't distracted by two ways of showing the same tabs. You'll have to edit your userChrome.css (see e.g. http://kb.mozillazine.org/index.php?title=UserChrome.css&pri... for d…

I wonder if anyone might have a hint on how I could create a certain behavior for TST. Generally, I want the TST sidebar to be full width (~250 px) so I can read all the open tabs at once. But when I have several windows open on my screen, the TST bar can take up too much of the window and reduces usability. I'd like to have the TST sidebar to auto-collapse (so it expands on mouse-over) when the firefox window is les…

Pair https://www.reddit.com/r/FirefoxCSS/comments/7emhsq/my_compa... with `@media (max-width: 500px) { … }` wrapping around the shrinking behaviour.
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