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Re: Tree Style Tabs

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Post by petepete »

jehlakj wrote: post #38
petepete wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's odd that so many people confuse the roles of tabs and bookmarks. Perhaps it's a sign that the bookmark UX isn't good (or prevalent) enough. I generally have four pinned tabs open for email, Slack and Trello, plus another five related to what I'm working on.

I disagree. It’s the poor history UX that’s the problem. Get rid of tabs altogether and show the history on the left side. Or if you like fuzzy searching, look them up in the extension store.

My history is too messy, I often flit to sites for a couple of seconds and backtrack.

Tabs make lots of sense, windows let me organise them into groups of things I'm currently working on. That's all sensible. Anything I come across that I think might be useful to my future self, I bookmark it. Again, working with the provided functionality. Sensible.

When people have 200 tabs open and can't remember what's where, that's what puzzles me. I've seen people flick through dozens of tabs looking for a piece of documentation they saw yesterday afternoon.

We already have the tools that make browsing and researching efficient. People just need to learn to use them.

Re: Tree Style Tabs

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Post by [deleted] »

ekianjo wrote: post #41
nneonneo wrote: post #3

I use TST extensively to manage hundreds of tabs, and it is a real joy. FWIW, these are the customizations that made TST much more usable for me: 1) Very importantly, hide the horizontal tab bar. You get some vertical screen space back, and you aren't distracted by two ways of showing the same tabs. You'll have to edit your userChrome.css (see e.g. http://kb.mozillazine.org/index.php?title=UserChrome.css&pri... for d…

Its weird that Firefox cant provide a single button in the preferences to remove the horizontal tab bar.

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Re: Tree Style Tabs

#53

Post by pletnes »

gamma-male wrote: post #45
leemailll wrote: post #21

I always feel this should be included in Firefox default settings. Vertical space is an asset on modern monitors especially on laptop, this extension is the reason Firefox is the default browser on my machines

I have no idea why Mozilla is ignoring this extension. This is definitely something that should be a core feature.

They did a «pilot» experiment recently but apparently decided it’s not important enough. That code is available as another extension (don’t recall the name, perhaps tabcenter).

Re: Tree Style Tabs

#54

Post by stinos »

gamma-male wrote: post #7

I don’t understand how people browse the web without this extension. That’s the number one reason chrome is not usable for power users. I’m also wondering why this is not natively supported by both firefox and chrome.

I don’t understand how people browse the web without this extension

Using tab groups ('Panorama View' or 'Tab Stash' extensions etc) instead, for instance? I do like to add some organization to tabs, order by topic etc, but I personally never really saw value (yet perhaps, we'll see) in having a tree for that, 1 level seems sufficient for me. And I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of TST users actuallt use it with just 1 level deep as well.

Re: Tree Style Tabs

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Post by stinos »

barryhoodlum wrote: post #50
gamma-male wrote: post #7

I don’t understand how people browse the web without this extension. That’s the number one reason chrome is not usable for power users. I’m also wondering why this is not natively supported by both firefox and chrome.

I don't know how people live with the mental burden and clutter of dozens of tabs of things they'll (if they were honest with themselves) never get around to reading. It's like watching one of those TV shows about hoarding, where people live in a rabbit warren of junk they claim they'll use one day.

They just don't see it as a burden and/or are maybe not too honest with themselves ('yeah but I will read it later'). That being said: there are other uses for TST, can replace bookmarks etc.

Re: Tree Style Tabs

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Post by Vinnl »

feanaro wrote: post #48
ekianjo wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Its weird that Firefox cant provide a single button in the preferences to remove the horizontal tab bar.

It's part of their new philosophy not to make anything configurable or anything "advanced" easy, unless you're jumping through some hoops. I still can't get over the fact that they removed the ability to view individual cookies and their values from the browser.

No, it's part of the philosophy that this particular feature led to users suddenly being without tab bar and basically having a broken browser. Although I do believe they're still weighing that against the benefits of being able to use TST without needing to go through extra hoops.

You can still view individual cookies and their values: open the dev tools, then the Storage tab.

Re: Tree Style Tabs

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Post by Vinnl »

pletnes wrote: post #53
gamma-male wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have no idea why Mozilla is ignoring this extension. This is definitely something that should be a core feature.

They did a «pilot» experiment recently but apparently decided it’s not important enough. That code is available as another extension (don’t recall the name, perhaps tabcenter).

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-GB/firefox/addon/tab-center-re...

Re: Tree Style Tabs

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Post by [deleted] »

gamma-male wrote: post #7

I don’t understand how people browse the web without this extension. That’s the number one reason chrome is not usable for power users. I’m also wondering why this is not natively supported by both firefox and chrome.

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Re: Tree Style Tabs

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Post by mirceam »

gamma-male wrote: post #47
zhte415 wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't use bookmarks. Tabs are for things I want to read today or at least as long as the browser session's open (could be multi-day, but all in a chain of thought). If I don't get round to them I let them die under the justification "couldn't have been important enough" rather than carry baggage. I have a personal wiki where I save links together with self-made notes and links/references associated with it. This pr…

Wow. This is me. TST + personal wiki + pocket

What did you use to create your personal wiki?

Re: Tree Style Tabs

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Post by gamma-male »

pletnes wrote: post #53
gamma-male wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have no idea why Mozilla is ignoring this extension. This is definitely something that should be a core feature.

They did a «pilot» experiment recently but apparently decided it’s not important enough. That code is available as another extension (don’t recall the name, perhaps tabcenter).

They should get their priorities right. Their test was really bad compared to TST
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