I always feel this should be included in Firefox default settings. Vertical space is an asset on modern monitors especially on laptop, this extension is the reason Firefox is the default browser on my machines
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#22I don’t understand how people browse the web without this extension. That’s the number one reason chrome is not usable for power users. I’m also wondering why this is not natively supported by both firefox and chrome.
and I don't understand how people have more than about 10 tabs and stay sane. Do you people like... not use bookmarks at all? Heck, most of the sites I visit on anything like a regular basis I only need to type in the first letter or two and they auto-complete.
It's highly difficult on chrome. On Firefox, I use a userChrome.css hack to give me multi-row tabs (which was an old Firefox extension). I have 49 tabs open right now over 3 rows and I can easily read most of the titles on them.
I have never been able to use Chrome effectively because my browsing habits are so tied to being able see many tabs open at once. I almost always open links by opening them in a new tab and I always open a new tab when starting something new.
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#23Anyone know of a way to bookmark the tree structure in TST?
Right clicking on a tab, I have an item `Tree Style Tab → Bookmark this tree…`. I use Firefox Nightly; this may be a Nightly feature, I don’t know.
It saves the tabs but it doesn't keep the hierarchy. I will try Nightly. Thanks!
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#24I always feel this should be included in Firefox default settings. Vertical space is an asset on modern monitors especially on laptop, this extension is the reason Firefox is the default browser on my machines
Isn't horizontal space what is excess on laptops? All widescreen these days
edit: nevermind. i misread.
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#25I don’t understand how people browse the web without this extension. That’s the number one reason chrome is not usable for power users. I’m also wondering why this is not natively supported by both firefox and chrome.
Considering that pretty much all browser based exploits use JS I'd say the number one reason chrome is not usable for power users is that it used to not be able to block JS without loading it first. At least this was the case last I checked, haven't really bothered with chrome's technology since its popularity soared ~6 years ago and all my friends started switching to it. Even if this is fixed it will always be my m…
Are JS-based exploits a real threat anymore? Even if you do find an exploit, it looks to be an uphill battle, because you still have layers of security to break through, and they're going to differ by target OS and browser. Even on platforms where things are fairly predictable, like say game consoles, the exploits look complicated and are often not very reliable.
Even in Firefox where the security story is still not quite as far along, I still am not really concerned about JS exploits. And most people now run browsers that automatically update. Few parties are going to spend that much money just for it to only be useful for a limited number of targets.
Now that Flash Player and ActiveX are pretty much gone from desktop browsers for most users, I feel the game has changed. People now need to be much more concerned with phishing, XSS, and other flaws. Social engineering is probably more of a threat to the general public than browser exploits.
(I do use firejail to sandbox my Firefox instance from the rest of my machine, but that's more a layer of last defense, and doesn't really prevent too much.)
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You never have more than 5 tabs open at the same time? You’re probably the minority and you probably have learned to do that because the tabs on top put these constraints on you. You would likely browse the web very differently if you had TST. Give it a try.
I also work in this way. I use tabs as my “working memory” for whatever my current project is. Having fewer tabs helps keep me on track working on a single topic. When I’m done with that task, it helps me transition by having closed all the tabs. When I want to save pages in the long term, I use bookmarks.
I use TST to supplement my working memory. I'm usually working within a particular subtree of all my (way too many) tabs. I probably still have more tabs in such a subtree than most people, but the same idea applies: the subtree keeps my focus on a single topic, and when I finish I can either collapse the subtree (my default) or close it entirely.
What I find invaluable is the super quick ramp-up after context switching, especially if whatever pulled me away turned out to be more work/time than expected.
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#27Used it before and it was slow and buggy. I found a better way to manage open tabs: stash them into bookmark stacks using simpler extension.
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tab-stash
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You never have more than 5 tabs open at the same time? You’re probably the minority and you probably have learned to do that because the tabs on top put these constraints on you. You would likely browse the web very differently if you had TST. Give it a try.
I also work in this way. I use tabs as my “working memory” for whatever my current project is. Having fewer tabs helps keep me on track working on a single topic. When I’m done with that task, it helps me transition by having closed all the tabs. When I want to save pages in the long term, I use bookmarks.
It's odd that so many people confuse the roles of tabs and bookmarks.
Perhaps it's a sign that the bookmark UX isn't good (or prevalent) enough.
I generally have four pinned tabs open for email, Slack and Trello, plus another five related to what I'm working on.
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Right clicking on a tab, I have an item `Tree Style Tab → Bookmark this tree…`. I use Firefox Nightly; this may be a Nightly feature, I don’t know.
It saves the tabs but it doesn't keep the hierarchy. I will try Nightly. Thanks!
Ah, it’s specifically the hierarchy you’re asking about. No, it doesn’t seem to save that.
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#30I used this for a bit but the duplication of information from this and the existing tab bar made it really annoying. Maybe you can hide the 'normal' bar pretty easily and I just didn't find the setting?
Firefox messed up big time with their flagship plugin with their last updates... not sure why.
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