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Facebook Knows How to Track You Using the Dust on Your Camera Lens

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Re: Facebook Knows How to Track You Using the Dust on Your Camera Lens

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I've come to believe that privacy "by design" is impossible in the hyper-connected age. There are too many vectors for tracking, linking, and de-anonymization and software in general is too insecure. The only solution to the privacy problem is legislation. My favorite idea is HIPAA type regulations for intimate personal data like audio, location, etc. Leak location data? That will be $10,000 per incident where an inc…

I usually come down on the libertarian side of things, but given the virtual monopoly by way of network effects, I do think some legislation for user derived data is necessary. These folk are not going to self regulate and waive potential revenue if they are not made to. I’d go so far as declare them “near utilities”.

> I’d go so far as declare them “near utilities”

Plastic surgeons are bound by HIPAA. They do not provide essential services. Similarly, we can regulate social networks without ensconcing them into our society’s fabric as utilities.

Re: Facebook Knows How to Track You Using the Dust on Your Camera Lens

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or if lens scratches or dust were detectable in the same spots on the photos, revealing the photos were taken by the same camera With the prevalence of mobile phones, whose camera lenses are likely to be exposed to a lot more "scrubbing" than a professional/dedicated camera, I suspect this might not work so well.

What do you mean exactly by scrubbing?

Re: Facebook Knows How to Track You Using the Dust on Your Camera Lens

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I've come to believe that privacy "by design" is impossible in the hyper-connected age. There are too many vectors for tracking, linking, and de-anonymization and software in general is too insecure. The only solution to the privacy problem is legislation. My favorite idea is HIPAA type regulations for intimate personal data like audio, location, etc. Leak location data? That will be $10,000 per incident where an inc…

Nope. Just chose to not use services that suck yourself. It's easy. You can say you peer group or whatever uses them but it is still your choice.

I strongly oppose your suggestion to bring in the government use of violence to impose your ideological goals on others. They have to chose for themselves.

Re: Facebook Knows How to Track You Using the Dust on Your Camera Lens

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I'm pretty sure Google and other large networks also build 'shadow profiles' on users to figure out who they are, who they're connected to, etc. And I wonder if this shady profiling data should be available for users to download under e.g. GDPR. Because it sounds to me like it should, but isn't.

Re: Facebook Knows How to Track You Using the Dust on Your Camera Lens

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I'm not really sure if that's a scary facebook thing or merely just an inconvenient reality of the world we live in now. There's quite a few papers out on fingerprinting/identifying cameras from images taken with them using intrinsics (dust, scratches, slight offset of image sensor with respect to lens).

I'm not really sure if that's a scary facebook thing or merely just an inconvenient reality of the world we live in now.

These aren't mutually exclusive. The reality of the world may just be acquiring more scary things, and ones that are created for profit.

Re: Facebook Knows How to Track You Using the Dust on Your Camera Lens

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This is smart. Unethical, but smart.

Indeed.

I'm wishing for a "dumb" social networking company, where the people who run it are idiots and I don't have to worry about this kind of invasive engineering (I long ago deleted my Facebook).

There's always twitter, I suppose.

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I've come to believe that privacy "by design" is impossible in the hyper-connected age. There are too many vectors for tracking, linking, and de-anonymization and software in general is too insecure. The only solution to the privacy problem is legislation. My favorite idea is HIPAA type regulations for intimate personal data like audio, location, etc. Leak location data? That will be $10,000 per incident where an inc…

Nope. Just chose to not use services that suck yourself. It's easy. You can say you peer group or whatever uses them but it is still your choice. I strongly oppose your suggestion to bring in the government use of violence to impose your ideological goals on others. They have to chose for themselves.

Nope. Just chose to not use services that suck yourself. It's easy.

Ok let’s test your hypothesis.

Camera noise

Right, I’m tagging you in this group photo and uploading it. Where’s your choice now?

Re: Facebook Knows How to Track You Using the Dust on Your Camera Lens

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Jokes on them, I have electrical tape on my camera lens. Something I learned from Facebook's CEO, ironically.

I'd love to see people spending >$1,000 on a new iPhone "for the camera", only to cover it with electrical tape.

This sounds like something out of Silicon Valley.

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